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A Marine Speaks Out

(From http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/martin-p1.html )

A Young Marine Speaks Out

I’m sick and tired of this patriotic, nationalistic and fascist crap. I stood through a memorial service today for a young Marine that was killed in Iraq back in April.

During this memorial a number of people spoke about the guy and about his sacrifice for the country. How do you justify ‘sacrificing’ your life for a war which is not only illegal, but is being prosecuted to the extent where the only thing keeping us there is one man’s power, and his ego. A recent Marine Corps intelligence report that was leaked said that the war in the al-Anbar province is unwinnable.

It said that there was nothing we could do to win the hearts and minds, or the military operations in that area. So I wonder, why are we still there? Democracy is not forced upon people at gunpoint. It’s the result of forward thinking individuals who take the initiative and risks to give their fellow countrymen a better way of life.

When I joined I took an oath. In that oath I swore to protect the Constitution of the United States. I didn’t swear to build democracies in countries on the other side of the world under the guise of “national security.” I didn’t join the military to be part of an Orwellian (“1984”) war machine that is in an obligatory war against whoever the state deems the enemy to be so that the populace can be controlled and riled up in a pro-nationalistic frenzy to support any new and oppressive law that will be the key to destroying the enemy.

Example given - the Patriot Act. So aptly named, and totally against all that the constitution stands for. President Bush used the reactionary nature of our society to bring our country together and to infuse into the national psyche a need to give up their little-used rights in the hope to make our nation a little safer. The same scare tactics he used to win elections. He drones on and on about how America and the world would be a less safe place if we weren’t killing Iraqis, and that we’d have to fight the terrorists at home if we weren’t abroad. In our modern day emotive society this strategy (or strategery?) works, or had worked, up until last month’s elections.

My point in this; to show that America was never nationalistic. If anything they were Statalistic (giving their allegiance to the state of their residence). This is shown in the fact that the founders created states with fully capable and independent governments and not provinces that were just a division of the federal government. These men believed that America was a place where imperialistic values would be non-existent.

Where the people trying to make their lives better by working hard, thinking, inventing and using the free market would tie up so much of normal life that imperialistic colonization and the fighting of wars thousands of miles away for interests that are not our own would be avoided. They believed this expansion of power could be left to the European nations, the England, France and Spain of their time. However this recent, and current influx of nationalistic feeling has created an environment where giving up your rights, going to a foreign country to fight a people who did not ask for us to be there, nor did their leader do anything to warrant us being there, and dying would be considered honorable and heroic.

I don’t believe it anymore. I don’t believe it’s right for any American to go along with it anymore. Yes I know that we in the military are bound by the UCMJ and somehow don’t fall under the Constitution (the very thing we’re suppose to be defending) but sooner or later there is a decision that every American soldier, marine, airmen and seamen makes to allow themselves to be sent to a war that is against every fiber this country was founded on. I know that when April rolls around I will be thinking long and hard on that decision. Even though we in the military are just doing as we’re told we still have the moral and ethical obligation to choose to do as we’re told, or to say, “No, that isn’t right.”

I believe that if more troopers like me and the professional military, the officers and commanders, start standing up and saying that they won’t let themselves or their troops go to this illegal war people will start standing up and realizing what the heck is going on over there.

The sad fact of the matter is that we are not fighting terrorists in Iraq. We are fighting the Iraqi people who feel like a conquered and occupied people. Personally I have a hard time believing that if I was an Iraqi that I wouldn’t be doing everything in my power to kill and maim as many Americans as possible. I know that the vast majority of Americans would not be happy with the Canadian government, or any other foreign government, liberating us from the clutches of George W. Bush, even though a large number of us would like that, and forcing us to accept their system of government. Would not millions of Americans rise up and fight back?

Would you not rise up to protect and defend your house and your neighborhood if someone invaded your country? But we send thousands of troops to a foreign country to do just that. How is it moral to fight a people who are just trying to defend their homes and families? I think next time I go to Iraq perhaps I should wear a bright red coat and carry a Brown Bess instead of my digitalized utilities and M16.

Notice I never once used the word homeland in any of this. I have a secondary point I want to bring up now. Never once was the term homeland ever used to describe the country of America until Mr. Bush began the department of homeland security after the 9/11 attacks. Taking a 20th century history class will teach us that the most notable countries in the last century that referred to their country in this way were Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. Hitler used the term fatherland to drum up support, nationalistic support, for his growing war machine.

He used the nationalism he created in the minds of the Germans to justify the sacrifice of their livelihood to build the war machine to get back their power from the oppressive restrictions the English and French had put on them at Versailles. This is the same feeling that has been virulently infecting the American psyche in the last hundred years. This is the same feeling that consoles a mother after her son is killed in an attempt to prosecute an aggressor’s war 10,000 miles away. It’s also known as Patriotism these days, but I say, “No more.” No more nationalistic inanity, no more passing it off as patriotism. Patriotism is learning, and educating oneself to understand what their country really stands for.

I heard a lot during the memorial service about how the dead Marine did so much good for others and how his helping others was like a little microcosm of America helping because we have the power to do so. Well if we have the power to help people why aren’t we helping in Darfur where hundreds of thousands of people have died in the last 10 years. Saddam was convicted and sentenced to death for killing 143 Shiites who conspired to assassinate him. (I know all you “patriotic” Americans would be calling for the heads of anyone who conspired to assassinate supreme leader Bush).

And yet we spend upwards of 1 trillion dollars and nearing 3,000 lives to help these Iraqis when they don’t even want us there. Not to mention we don’t have the legal justification to be there. I guess we should wait around for the omnipotent W Bush to decide who we should use our superpowerdom to help next. It’s about time to throw him and the rest of the fascists out. Moreover it’s about time to start educating Americans about their past and history, and letting them know that imperialistic leaders are not what the founders of this great country wanted.

December 8, 2006

Philip Martin [grimmythedog@netscape.net] has been a Marine for 2 years. He is in the infantry (a “grunt”), and spent 7 months in the al-Anbar province of Iraq. He went on more than 180 combat patrols in and outside of the city of Fallujah, where he was hit with 2 IEDs (luckily never injured) and was involved in a number of firefights. He is currently stationed in Twentynine Palms, CA, and due to return to Iraq for a second deployment in April 2007. He is 21-years-old.

Obviously an anti-American traitor…

He makes some good points; however, if he thinks that America’s founding generation, and the generations that would follow, did not harbor imperialistic views, he is mistaken. The nature of their imperialism may have been different than their European counterparts–American exceptionalism, at least in theory–but, nevertheless, it was, and always has been, imperialistic.

The current war in Iraq isn’t quite the deviation he seems to think it is…

If Philip Martin really exists, then he has balls. He is under some risk of punishment from his command.
I’ve only been able to find this letter on the referenced website. It doesn’t seem to exist on any others. The letter seems contrived, but good on him if it is real. I’ll bet you all 10 bucks he re-enlists though. Thats a future Sergeant Major.

[quote]vroom wrote:
Obviously an anti-American traitor…[/quote]

Aren’t all soldiers heroes? I know all the dead ones are; but even the live ones are generally revered to a a high degree.

[quote]BH6 wrote:
If Philip Martin really exists, then he has balls. He is under some risk of punishment from his command.
I’ve only been able to find this letter on the referenced website. It doesn’t seem to exist on any others. The letter seems contrived, but good on him if it is real. I’ll bet you all 10 bucks he re-enlists though. Thats a future Sergeant Major. [/quote]

According to the date, it was posted yesterday. Given time, it might spread on the web.

It might also disappear altogether.

As for him being a real person or not, doesn’t the army keep records of its enlisted men?

There’s also that email address; I guess someone could write him and ascertain from his response whether he’s real or fake.

Every large group of people will contain dissenters. If he doesn’t like what he’s doing, disagrees with his commander-in-chief, he should attempt to seperate himself from service. Failing that, he should flee to Canada (and live with Pookie).

I think he’s more pissed off because he realizes that the phony conservative Bush and the spineless Republicans didn’t try hard enough to win. They hoped that a small force was all that’s necessary and that things would settle themselves.

Gotta keep the libs and soccer moms happy after all, or they might vote Democrat next time (uh, that one didn’t work, George).

You guys do realize that we’ll soon have to go back there in WAY more substantial force, that the scum will have more and better weapons, and that American dead will probably be in the TENS of thousands…all because we were wimpy now. Damnned libs and spineless Republican scumbuckets!!!

[quote]Headhunter wrote

I think he’s more pissed off because he realizes that the phony conservative Bush and the spineless Republicans didn’t try hard enough to win.[/quote]

He says pretty clearly why he’s pissed off, maybe we should leave it at that.[quote]

You guys do realize that we’ll soon have to go back there in WAY more substantial force, that the scum will have more and better weapons, and that American dead will probably be in the TENS of thousands…[/quote]

Doesn’t need to happen, unless you absolutely insist on throwing your fellow Americans beneath the wheels of the petroleum industry.

[quote]endgamer711 wrote:
Headhunter wrote

I think he’s more pissed off because he realizes that the phony conservative Bush and the spineless Republicans didn’t try hard enough to win.

He says pretty clearly why he’s pissed off, maybe we should leave it at that.

You guys do realize that we’ll soon have to go back there in WAY more substantial force, that the scum will have more and better weapons, and that American dead will probably be in the TENS of thousands…

Doesn’t need to happen, unless you absolutely insist on throwing your fellow Americans beneath the wheels of the petroleum industry.

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Huh? The world runs on oil, capitalism provides same in the cheapest possible manner. Barbarians and tribal chieftains like Ahmida…(aw, hell, I’m not going to spell that prick’s name. Let’s just call him Hitler2.) …hate capitalism, hate freedom, and hate happiness. Its fundamental to their beliefs.

To these yoyos, happiness on earth is a sin. The movie (and book) Chronicles of Riddick nails 'em, spot on.

We can’t negotiate with these guys. We can only exterminate 'em. Exterminate enough and the rest will finally figure it out. Hell, maybe they’ll even become civilised, like the Chinese are slowly doing.

Here’s another pissed off Marine sounding off. No matter what his reasons, Smedley Butler - one of the most decorated Marines of all time, knew what he was talking about:

Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC:

War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents. 

[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Here’s another pissed off Marine sounding off. No matter what his reasons, Smedley Butler - one of the most decorated Marines of all time, knew what he was talking about:

Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC:

War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.

It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents. [/quote]

Brilliant post.

That WAS a cool read (I googled Smedley Butler.) Thank you for posting it.

The American people are not yet ready for a truly fascist state. That’ll come when the welfare and warfare states bankrupt us, in the sense that our money becomes worthless. This may be one reason why Bush never vetoed a spending bill.

Since the bankruptcy is now all but inevitable, be prepared.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
That WAS a cool read (I googled Smedley Butler.) Thank you for posting it.
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Marines know Smedley Butler. In boot camp we were steeped in stories about him. At Parris Island, we were taught that Butler was one of two Marines to have been awarded the Medal of Honor twice (the other is Dan Daly). He served as an example of the warrior ethos. In boot camp, however, they didn’t teach what Smedley did when he got out of the Corps.

Non-Marines have probably never heard of Smedley Butler. Here is a good book written about his career as a Marine and the dramatic turnabout after his retirement:

[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
That WAS a cool read (I googled Smedley Butler.) Thank you for posting it.

Marines know Smedley Butler. In boot camp we were steeped in stories about him. At Parris Island, we were taught that Butler was one of two Marines to have been awarded the Medal of Honor twice (the other is Dan Daly). He served as an example of the warrior ethos. In boot camp, however, they didn’t teach what Smedley did when he got out of the Corps.

Non-Marines have probably never heard of Smedley Butler. Here is a good book written about his career as a Marine and the dramatic turnabout after his retirement:


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Thanks. It did strike me as odd though that he was a Quaker, but served in the Marines. Aren’t Quakers totally against fighting and war?

I know…read the book! :wink:

It’s not like anyone is allowed to say what they think in any American war. There might be freedom of speech, but that freedom is rewarded with jail.

Thanks to pookie and loose tool for sharing those posts with us.

Definitely an interesting perspective. Philip Martin seems like a pretty thoughtful guy.

He seems too smart to be a marine! (I’m joking…)

In the military for two years and he’s able to make this kind of judgement at the age of 21…?

People please ok…please stop listening to this make believe stories. A 21 year old young man at Iraq will be gun-ho. Those I have known at the age of 21 and hate the military are normally some sacks of shit ready to be burned by some kerosene. Not all military personnel are heroes as you might have been led to believe.

The majority are though those who go on without complaining. Those who sleep only fours hours a night for 12 months straight.
If it is true, something ain’t right with him.

[quote]jre67t wrote:
In the military for two years and he’s able to make this kind of judgement at the age of 21…?

People please ok…please stop listening to this make believe stories. A 21 year old young man at Iraq will be gun-ho. Those I have known at the age of 21 and hate the military are normally some sacks of shit ready to be burned by some kerosene. Not all military personnel are heroes as you might have been led to believe.

The majority are though those who go on without complaining. Those who sleep only fours hours a night for 12 months straight.
If it is true, something ain’t right with him.[/quote]

Huh? When did you get back from Iraq?

[quote]jre67t wrote:
In the military for two years and he’s able to make this kind of judgement at the age of 21…?

People please ok…please stop listening to this make believe stories. A 21 year old young man at Iraq will be gun-ho. Those I have known at the age of 21 and hate the military are normally some sacks of shit ready to be burned by some kerosene. Not all military personnel are heroes as you might have been led to believe.

The majority are though those who go on without complaining. Those who sleep only fours hours a night for 12 months straight.
If it is true, something ain’t right with him.[/quote]

“And the T-Nation “WTF TSB” award for most incoherent post goes to…”

Huh? When did you get back from Iraq?

About a year and a half ago, or did you want an exact date?

Im not bashing this Marine. Nor service members.