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7 Mumbai Jihadists were from UK

More on Britain’s biggest export: jihad

Here’s Al-Qaeda rejoicing over Hindu deaths (not to mention the Jewish death), just like during the days of Islamic rule of India:
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=3.0.2756280942

Of course, the US is now exporting jihadists to Somalia, so we’re hardly better:

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=309AD9FB122DD234ED6AF172413BBEB5?contentId=7929864&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

By all means, let’s have another amnesty! I’m sure we’ll weed out the tens of thousands of potential jihadists who want to immigrate to this country, won’t we?

Shit.

The British even have WMD´s.

There goes London.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
More on Britain’s biggest export: jihad

Here’s Al-Qaeda rejoicing over Hindu deaths (not to mention the Jewish death), just like during the days of Islamic rule of India:
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=3.0.2756280942

Of course, the US is now exporting jihadists to Somalia, so we’re hardly better:

By all means, let’s have another amnesty! I’m sure we’ll weed out the tens of thousands of potential jihadists who want to immigrate to this country, won’t we?[/quote]

Indeed. Although US Muslims have not been radicalized to nearly the extent of Britain’s.

That’s all full of ‘allegedly’ and ‘claimed’ and not one shred of evidence.At least wait until something credible comes to light.

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
That’s all full of ‘allegedly’ and ‘claimed’ and not one shred of evidence.At least wait until something credible comes to light.[/quote]

Why would one do that? The point is to appeal to bigotry, not to carefully analyze the situation.

Did I mention Obama is a “RACIST!” and his wife “HATES WHITES!!!1!” ?

‘No evidence’ of UK Mumbai link
A top Indian official has said there was “no authentic information” to suggest that any British citizens were involved in the Mumbai attacks.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7756464.stm
Page last updated at 00:05 GMT, Sunday, 30 November 2008

Let’s just wait for the facts to arrive, shall we?

Makkun

[quote]makkun wrote:
‘No evidence’ of UK Mumbai link
A top Indian official has said there was “no authentic information” to suggest that any British citizens were involved in the Mumbai attacks.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7756464.stm
Page last updated at 00:05 GMT, Sunday, 30 November 2008

Let’s just wait for the facts to arrive, shall we?

Makkun[/quote]

This Indian official is the same official who said some of the terrorists were British, but he has now recanted. Which is suspiscious.

[quote]Sifu wrote:
This Indian official is the same official who said some of the terrorists were British, but he has now recanted. Which is suspiscious. [/quote]

They probably were, but the British officials that flew out there to ‘help’, have probably asked them to keep a lid on it till a later date.

LR

[quote]Sifu wrote:

This Indian official is the same official who said some of the terrorists were British, but he has now recanted. Which is suspiscious. [/quote]

Indian…Dot or feather?

[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
Sifu wrote:

This Indian official is the same official who said some of the terrorists were British, but he has now recanted. Which is suspiscious.

Indian…Dot or feather?[/quote]

Or dotted feather?

Werent they Pakistani’s?

May those who lost their lives rest in peace.

(I mean not the terrorists, let them burn in the purgatory for ever)

[quote]London Runner wrote:
Sifu wrote:
This Indian official is the same official who said some of the terrorists were British, but he has now recanted. Which is suspiscious.

They probably were, but the British officials that flew out there to ‘help’, have probably asked them to keep a lid on it till a later date.

LR[/quote]

Yeah, it looks suspicious to me as well. Several “British” citizens of Pakistani origin have been found in various theaters of jihad warfare, including our dear old Omar Sheikh, one of Danny Pearl’s murderers, who was raised in the UK:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/feb/23/alqaida.usa

“[…]India’s Deputy Home Minister, Shakeel Ahmad, told the BBC it was “very clearly established” that all the attackers had been from Pakistan - echoing similar comments from other officials in recent days.[…]”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7758809.stm

“[…]The Mumbai attackers were all from Pakistan, India’s deputy interior minister has said, stopping short of blaming the government in Islamabad for last week’s carnage which left more than 170 dead.[…]”

“[…]High commissioner in Delhi called to foreign office and told ‘elements from Pakistan’ carried out terrorist massacre[…]”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/01/mumbai-terror-attacks-india-pakistan5

As before - let’s wait for the facts to come in. So far they don’t seem to support the thread title at all. Given the strong ties between UK and Pakistani islamist radicals, it wouldn’t be a surprise - but so far it seems that this expectation is not fulfilled.

Makkun

Another UK jihadist arrested today. He was planning a Mumbai style massacre. Looks like he was associated with the group that attacked in Mumbai:

Does this mean they were from Pakistan also?

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
More on Britain’s biggest export: jihad

Here’s Al-Qaeda rejoicing over Hindu deaths (not to mention the Jewish death), just like during the days of Islamic rule of India:
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=3.0.2756280942

Of course, the US is now exporting jihadists to Somalia, so we’re hardly better:

By all means, let’s have another amnesty! I’m sure we’ll weed out the tens of thousands of potential jihadists who want to immigrate to this country, won’t we?[/quote]

The mirror is well know for talking complete rubbish. I really wouldn’t believe a word written in there.

Having said that just because someone has a British passport does not mean they are British. They become that when they start to think of themselves are British (or English/Scottish/Welsh/ N. Irish) first and whatever else second. If these guys were born in the UK yet wanted to be Muslim terrorists they clearly didn’t regard themselves as British citizens.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Another UK jihadist arrested today. He was planning a Mumbai style massacre. Looks like he was associated with the group that attacked in Mumbai:


Kazi Nurur Rahman, from east London, was associated with the same terrorist group that is accused of the attack in India which killed almost 200 people.


Police were first told about Rahman by an American informant who spoke of a man he knew as Abdul Haleem who ran a terrorist gang in east London and travelled to Pakistan in the aftermath of September 11.

Does this mean they were from Pakistan also?[/quote]

Nope…South Central LA

[quote]London Runner wrote:
Sifu wrote:
This Indian official is the same official who said some of the terrorists were British, but he has now recanted. Which is suspiscious.

They probably were, but the British officials that flew out there to ‘help’, have probably asked them to keep a lid on it till a later date.

LR[/quote]

This is why I said that the change of story is suspicious, because it coincided with a “special” team from Britain arriving to “assist” with the investigation.

I seriously doubt we will hear anything other than what the Labour party wants us to believe from the authorities.

[quote]makkun wrote:
“[…]India’s Deputy Home Minister, Shakeel Ahmad, told the BBC it was “very clearly established” that all the attackers had been from Pakistan - echoing similar comments from other officials in recent days.[…]”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7758809.stm [/quote]

The BBC is an extremely partisan supporter of the Labour party, because of this fact the beeb is not a reliable source of information.

The same day that several UK newspapers headline was Mubai attackers British I watched the BBC’s broadcast where they reported on the origin of the attackers. For several minutes they went to great lengths to blame international jihadists, Alqaeda and went into detail about them. Then at the end of the segment they gave the briefest of mentions of the possible UK connection and then only to discount it and say it has been disproven.

[quote]
“[…]The Mumbai attackers were all from Pakistan, India’s deputy interior minister has said, stopping short of blaming the government in Islamabad for last week’s carnage which left more than 170 dead.[…]”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3537795/Mumbai-attacks-Bombay-India-says-all-militants-were-from-Pakistan.html [/quote]

Again this is coming from the Indians after they have had a talking to from the British government.

[quote]
“[…]High commissioner in Delhi called to foreign office and told ‘elements from Pakistan’ carried out terrorist massacre[…]”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/01/mumbai-terror-attacks-india-pakistan5 [/quote]

“India says it has proof the estimated 10 militants who went on the rampage at two luxury hotels, a Jewish centre, a tourist cafe and other targets in the commercial city had connections with Pakistan.”

What proof? India doesn’t even have official records for all of it’s own citizens, but we are now to believe that they know who all the Pakistani’s are.

[quote]
As before - let’s wait for the facts to come in. So far they don’t seem to support the thread title at all. Given the strong ties between UK and Pakistani islamist radicals, it wouldn’t be a surprise - but so far it seems that this expectation is not fulfilled.

Makkun [/quote]

There were reports that some of the terrorists had British accents and all the terrorists have not been caught or killed.

Rashid Rauf who was British is thought to be the mastermind behind this attack.

Here is what the Israelis are saying about how the Mumbai attack was practically identical to another attack carried out by British muslims in Israel.

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5744

The Mumbai terror attack’s first prototype: Mike’s Place, Tel Aviv, 2003

Five years ago, al Qaeda enlisted two Pakistani British Muslims to land by sea in Tel Aviv, seize a large beachside hotel and the nearby US embassy, take hostages and shoot as many as possible. Recruited at London’s radical Finsbury Park mosque (like Shoe-bomber Richard Reid, Asif Muhammed Hanif and Omar Khan Sharif were trained for their mission in neighboring Syria and Gaza Strip.

But they missed their main objectives. Instead, they hit Mike’s Place, a bar, killing three Israelis and injuring 60. Those directives, however, recurred strikingly - albeit on a mega-scale - in the Islamist terrorists’ method of operation in Mumbai, on Wednesday, Nov. 26.

Mumbai was attacked - not by two but an estimated 30 terrorists, who were assigned seven targets in a world city of more than 16 million. Had the pair of bombers carried off their Tel Aviv mission as instructed, less than two years after 9/11, it would have resonated hugely for al Qaeda. The two British Islamists were prepared as meticulously as the much larger group of Mumbai attackers, spending months in Gaza taking instruction from Hamas in suicide tactics with bomb vests, after their initial indoctrination in Syria.

The 2003 attack started going askew when, at the last moment, Hanif and Sharif’s al Qaeda controller changed the original plan. Instead of landing in Tel Aviv by sea, the bombers were told to make their way from Gaza to the Israeli town several days before the target date, register at a hotel with their British passports and thoroughly scout the targeted locations.

Although by 2008, al Qaeda had advanced from bomb vests to commando tactics, careful reconnaissance and mounting operations from neighboring countries were abiding elements of their mode of operation, as revealed in the Mumbai assault.

The 2003 operation began to unravel after the two bombers, instead of making for a hotel and the US embassy, attacked a bar, only to find their bomb vests were defective. Hanif’s detonated only partly, killing three Israelis and himself, Sharif’s did not work at all and he ran off.

Then, too, the UK government disowned any British connection in the incident, which was easier then, given the small scale of the incident.

The full story came out only four years later in May 2007, when US forces in Iraq captured Al Hadi al Iraqi, who turned out to be the al Qaeda operative who trained Hanif and Sharif and sent them to Tel Aviv in April 2003.

I like the facts on the captured jihadist from Makkun’s article:

[quote]Suspect named as Azam Amir Qasab
21 years old, fluent English speaker
Told police he is from Faridkot village, in Pakistan’s Punjab province
Said the attackers took orders from handlers in Pakistan
[/quote]

He learned “fluent English” in Faridkot village in Pakistan, huh? Thanks for clearing that up for us Beeb!