4 Capsules Neccessary for Flameout?

fisch · September 22, 2008, 10:16pm

I just ordered Flameout, but im curious as to why im supposed to take 4 capsules. From the other Fish Oil capsules i’ve seen, they want you to take 2 capsules, which is like 1/5 of the amount of EPA and DHA (more like 1/20 for DHA). Why should I take 4 capsules for Flameout, when every other Fish Oil says to take so little compared to it? Is it better for you to have that much more EPA and DHA?

HK24719 · September 22, 2008, 10:22pm

[quote]fisch wrote:
Is it better for you to have that much more EPA and DHA?[/quote]

Many “experts” recommend a significantly higher dose than found in 4 capsules Flameout.

I typically use 6 to 8 capsules of Flameout per day because of this.

analog_kid · September 23, 2008, 12:02am

[quote]fisch wrote:
I just ordered Flameout, but im curious as to why im supposed to take 4 capsules. From the other Fish Oil capsules i’ve seen, they want you to take 2 capsules, which is like 1/5 of the amount of EPA and DHA (more like 1/20 for DHA). Why should I take 4 capsules for Flameout, when every other Fish Oil says to take so little compared to it? Is it better for you to have that much more EPA and DHA?[/quote]

And the FDA says a healthy diet of 70% carbs, 20% protein, and 10% fat is ideal for optimal health and body composition.

Spry · September 23, 2008, 12:23am

When I took Flameout I took 4 capsules 3 times daily.

I needed this much to feel the effects (my skin becamer clearer and I just felt better and my joints were better).

Since I can’t afford 52 bottles of Flameout every year I don’t take it anymore.

I have also not found any other products which I could get the same amount of EPH/DHA for an affordable cost (or in such a small dosage).

analog_kid · September 23, 2008, 12:39am

[quote]Spry wrote:
When I took Flameout I took 4 capsules 3 times daily.

I needed this much to feel the effects (my skin becamer clearer and I just felt better and my joints were better).

Since I can’t afford 52 bottles of Flameout every year I don’t take it anymore.

I have also not found any other products which I could get the same amount of EPH/DHA for an affordable cost (or in such a small dosage).

[/quote]

You would really only need 49.

Spry · September 23, 2008, 12:52am

[quote]analog_kid wrote:

You would really only need 49. ;-)[/quote]

Full marks! Come and see me after class for your reward…

The_Mighty_Stu · September 23, 2008, 2:06am

I take an extra 4 vitamin world brand capsules with each Flameout (4x daily). It’s cheaper, and I get more Quantity by days end.

S

cyph31 · September 23, 2008, 3:07am

[quote]fisch wrote:
I just ordered Flameout, but im curious as to why im supposed to take 4 capsules. From the other Fish Oil capsules i’ve seen, they want you to take 2 capsules, which is like 1/5 of the amount of EPA and DHA (more like 1/20 for DHA). Why should I take 4 capsules for Flameout, when every other Fish Oil says to take so little compared to it? Is it better for you to have that much more EPA and DHA?[/quote]

the “recommended” dosages on the bottles and from doctors/nutritionists/dieticians are so low that they will pretty much do nothing for you, fish oil is something that just gets better and better with higher dosages

4 capsules ? screw that try 20 instead

analog_kid · September 23, 2008, 7:51am

[quote]Spry wrote:
analog_kid wrote:

You would really only need 49.

Full marks! Come and see me after class for your reward…

[/quote]

Free Flameout?

hardgnr · September 23, 2008, 10:29am

Flameout is designed for bodybuilders, or people who lift weights. We have different needs, nutrient requirements, diet habits whatever the fuck you want to call it then 95% of the population.

Daily intakes really don’t apply to us. Either does doctors advice. Just listen to us.

Lunarisx718 · September 23, 2008, 12:35pm

[quote]hardgnr wrote:
Flameout is designed for bodybuilders, or people who lift weights. We have different needs, nutrient requirements, diet habits whatever the fuck you want to call it then 95% of the population.

Daily intakes really don’t apply to us. Either does doctors advice. Just listen to us.[/quote]

yeah who needs a medical degree. =P

The_Mighty_Stu · September 23, 2008, 12:56pm

Just walk around wearing a stethoscope and carrying a clipboard. People will believe whatever you tell them

S

Madman2 · September 23, 2008, 4:54pm

[quote]fisch wrote:
I just ordered Flameout, but im curious as to why im supposed to take 4 capsules. From the other Fish Oil capsules i’ve seen, they want you to take 2 capsules, which is like 1/5 of the amount of EPA and DHA (more like 1/20 for DHA).

Why should I take 4 capsules for Flameout, when every other Fish Oil says to take so little compared to it? Is it better for you to have that much more EPA and DHA?[/quote]

What’s needed for a basic level of health and what is needed for optimal health are 2 very different things. In this instance the medical community dosen’t recognize any needs beyond preventing heart disease.

2 or 3 capsules of regular fish oil will do the trick (even this is only a minimal amount of reduction). If you want better results more are needed. According to Charles Poliquin, Question of Strength Dec. 2006, increased fish oil intake (above the typical 2 or 3 grams) will get you:

Cell membrane health: EPA and DHA insure that cell membranes remain healthy. This means that the membranes are flexible and contain larger numbers of insulin receptors that are more receptive and responsive to circulating insulin. This results in decreased fat storage in the adipocytes (fat cells).

Fish oils turn on the lipolytic genes (fat burning genes).

Fish oils turn off the lipogenic genes (fat storage genes).

Fish oils diminish C-reactive proteins, a newly identified risk factor associated with various inflammatory diseases, including atherosclerosis, angina, coronary heart disease, heart attack, stroke, congestive heart failure, and diabetes.

The DHA fraction of the fish oil seems to be one most responsible for that protective effect. DHA also has the best ability to reduce blood pressure.

Increase utilization of fat stores from the adipocytes.

Preferential utilization for energy production once stored in the adipocytes.

Reduced inflammation from physical training.

Pain management from the reduced inflammation.

EPA regulates blood supply to the brain which is essential in maintaining focus in weight training sessions. DHA is important in brain membranes, memory, and cognitive function.

Fish oils increase serotonin levels (the happy neurotransmitter). Therefore, fish oils will decrease incidence of depression, anxiety, panic attack, and reduce carbohydrate cravings.

Fish oils will improve your cardiovascular risk profile by lowering VLDL, triglycerides, homocysteine, fibrinogen, and increasing HDL levels. Combining fish oils with plant sterols will improve lipid levels even more than either alone.

Fish oils can also decrease blood pressure by several mechanisms. These include increases in the vasodilatory compound, nitric oxide, reducing vascular inflammation, blocking the constrictive elements in the vascular wall such as the calcium channels reducing blood viscosity, and inhibiting a blood vessel constrictor (thromboxane).

Lipoprotein (a) is another CVD predictor that can be lowered by fish oils (a 19% reduction was seen with natural, stable fish oils and just 4% with a highly purified fish oil).

Fish oils are a great stress fighter. Supplementation with n-3 fatty acids inhibits the adrenal activation of steroids, aldosterone, epinephrine, and norepinephrine (catecholamines) elicited by a mental stress, apparently through effects exerted at the level of the central nervous system.

Therefore, for the same amount of stress, one will produce fewer stress hormones if consuming fish oils on a regular basis.

Me, I’m gonna take plenty of fish oil over and above the typical recommedation.

fisch · September 26, 2008, 1:24am

So I’ve been taking a break from lifting for a while, but I plan on getting back into it within a week or 2 (getting a home weight set). Should I be taking Flameout even when im not lifting (no I don’t mean off days, I mean when you aren’t lifting for a while)?

(yeah I know fish oil is good for you, but im thinking it might be a better use of my money to use Flameout once I start lifting again)

cyph31 · September 26, 2008, 3:23am

fish oil reduces inflammation

inflammation is pretty much involved in every single screwed up thing that can happen inside a human being

do you want to improve your skin, eliminate headaches, improve your sleep, improve your focus, improve your memory, improve your mood ? then take fish oil, a lot of it, every day

if there’s one supplement that everyone needs it’s this

rrjc5488 · September 26, 2008, 3:52am

[quote]fisch wrote:
So I’ve been taking a break from lifting for a while, but I plan on getting back into it within a week or 2 (getting a home weight set). Should I be taking Flameout even when im not lifting (no I don’t mean off days, I mean when you aren’t lifting for a while)?

(yeah I know fish oil is good for you, but im thinking it might be a better use of my money to use Flameout once I start lifting again)[/quote]

With shit like what was mentioned right above, you’re still not going to take it all the time?

Flameout is money well spent.

cpcloud · September 26, 2008, 12:32pm

i take 6-10 reg pills plus 3 tablespoons carlson orange flavor fish oil (tastes great btw). Definitely has helped boost my mood and energy levels. That and the improved fat loss are pretty much the only tangible short term effects. It’s different for everyone though. Bottom line is: take the stuff. even when you are not training.