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4-AD-EC Dosing Threshold

What do you pundits feel is the maximum beneficial per day dose of 4-AD-EC, when used without other pro-hormones/steroids, etc. ?

I’m guessing that the bottle recommendation is conservative, to avoid possible negative side effects (6 pills/day before 9:00am).

Any thoughts here?


After additional mining through the archives, I found Bill Robert’s answer to a similar question. Here it is if anyone is interested:

For many, taking the 4-AD-EC component in excessive amounts (excessive meaning, beyond the point of no or very little further return) results in too much CNS stimulation and problems with (temporarily and moderately) sped-up heart rate and that sort of thing have occasionally been reported; while on the other hand some have used the 4-AD-EC product at utterly massive doses and for them had no perceptible added side effect, nor any perceptible added benefit.

So, besides wasting their money getting
I think no further added benefit with amounts past this, there could be problems with too
much CNS stimulation from the 4-AD-EC.

As far as any other adverse side effects go,
non-17-alkylated androgens in general are remarkable in giving quite a lot of tolerance for overdosing, but still it could well be that it might be harder on the health to use gross excesses, and it would be surprising if there were actually zero such effect.

So it’s a combination of why waste money; some will have adverse effect from too much CNS stimulation; and it seems reasonable that it may be less good to take excess rather than an equally-effective but smaller amount (as with just about anything else, including even water.)