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360 vs. PS3

I’ve noticed that there’s a couple of gaming posts floating around so I thought it’d be a good time to post this question.

I have a problem. I can either wait to get a PS3 or get the 360 right now with 4 additional games one of them being Gears of War.

What to do!!!??

PS3 will cost me about 600 bucks but the 360 with 4 games will cost me 450. Only problem is I already have many PS2 games and there are many series of games that I like and know that they are coming to the next gen. One interesting thing I’ve also heard is that the PS3 isn’t backward compatible? Can any gamers shed some light on this?

More trouble. Also that the 360 isn’t HD ready right out of the box and it will cost 100 more dollars for the HD add on.

On the flip side the delay of the PS3 has many companies distributing to the 360 as well instead of exclusively to the PS3 like the GTA series, FEAR, Assasin’s Creed, and many more. Many of the exclusive games that used to be for the PS3 were the driving reason to get one for me. But now it’s on both!

Somebody help me I’m lost in the confusion of this console war.

Also the Wii looks kind of interesting especially the boxing game and Call of Duty 3 where you move the controller to rifle butt your enemy’s and use it like the rifle in duck hunt for SNES which is a pretty smart idea and will probably also get some of those kids up off their butts and moving even if isn’t exactly “exercise” as some people know it to be.

Too many options. Somebody help me out. Argue it out like you’d like you’d argue over split training and fullbody workouts.

The two things you mentioned for the Wii both suck. So if those are your reasons for being interested in it, scratch it off your list.

The PS3 is supposed to be compatible with all PS2 games, but some problems have caused the PS3 to not work with them. I think there might be an update for it or something. I really don’t know.

As for the 360, I have no idea what you mean by “HD ready.”

The $400 version comes with component cables, which are all you need (if you have a HDTV) to take advantage of the high-definition graphics of the games.

Did you mean HD DVD? If so, I thought that add-on cost $200. Maybe not. I haven’t been following very closely.

Personally, I’m going to wait until next summer and see how the PS3 and Wii perform.

It’s actually between the PS3 and the X360 in my case, because the Wii’s gimmicky controller doesn’t interest me at all. I’m also not that big a fan of RPGs, so Zelda is not a selling point. I much prefer shooters and racing games, which are not as prevalent on Nintendo’s consoles.

If I had to pick now, I’d go for the 360. Sony has made some weird choices hardware wise, but the same could be said of the PS2 and a large number of amazing games still where available for it.

The X360’s hardware problems are also a bit off-putting. Other consoles have had launch problems; but to still hear about dead or rapidly dying consoles one year later is troubling. MS is supposedly going to a smaller die size in Q1 2007, with will probably help with the heat issues.

Blu-Ray vs. HD is pretty much a wash for me. I think both formats are too little, too late. The future of HD is streaming the content over broadband, not buying shiny disks in boxes. DVD offered many advantages over VHS tape (no rewinding, alternate soundtracks, bonus material, etc) but HDDVD/BRD offer basically except for a better resolution (which only about 3% of existing TVs can correctly display.) So, currently, I don’t care about playing HD movies on my console, but Sony forces it on me.

Another thing: No rumble in the new Sony controllers… An F1 sim without feeling the curbs simply won’t feel right. The feedback from being shot at in many shooters is quite helpful when the action gets hectic. I think that either Sony or a third party will introduce a vibrating controller within six months and that games will start using it again, foregoing the “motion” sensing gimmick.

I’m waiting at least another 6 months to see if the PS3 can live up to at least part of the hype. I think MS did a lot of things right for this generation of consoles - except for reliability. When I buy a console, I want to play it, not send it out to be exchanged every 4 months; and I certainly don’t want to buy one each year as the warranty expires.

http://forums.xbox.com/8142087/ShowPost.aspx

New game coming from Capcom.

Apparently, the level of violence is extreme: beatings, muggings, shootings, etc. Fraud, extortion, rigged eBay auctions, the works. Described as “just like Gears of War, but take away the armor and cover.”

first off, the whole thing about the 360 bricking is old now, ms fixed this problem to where there are no new ones on the shelves that are bricking, in fact if your console bricked and it wasnt under warranty anymore (mine) you sent it in and paid 120$ to fix it i was so pissed. but just recently ms came out and refunded everyones money and gave them a free year of warranty. (my check came yesterday)

now like any console launch there are gonna be problems, the ps3 has already had many:
bricking- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVXzN7jCcRA
HDMI-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXefPf4m8Vo

and like (i believe) pookie said the future in hd content isnt gonna be on some new 30$ disc its all gonna be downloadable, (just remember where the porn industry goes, the world follows). with that said today, the 22nd, ms’ online movie and tv show download service launches today, via xbox live.

[quote]BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
first off, the whole thing about the 360 bricking is old now, ms fixed this problem[/quote]

I’d like to believe that, but in a few forums/blogs I frequent for video game news, I’m still seeing posts about people who are buying recent X360s and getting the “rings of death” within hours or days. And these are posts dated october/november of this year.

Maybe for everyone of those posts there are 20 happy customers who aren’t having problems, but still, I don’t remember seeing that many complaints about reliability for any other console.

I’m buying a Nintendo Wii for the kids for Christmass. The strange controls system doesnt appeal to me but they will love the fun sports games and stuff like Mario and Zelda. I’ve also ordered Call Of Duty 3 for the Wii to keep me entertained until the PS3 comes out.

The recent mandatory fall update for those of us on live has caused some problems with a decent number of units, as evidenced by a 40+ page thread on m$ forums. Some are straight up bricked, some are just fu*king up, random lockups and shit, I have one of them that just locks up. As someone mentioned, any system with a mfg date of 05 had automatically had the warranty extended from 90 days to a year, although the systems bricked by the update appear to be a mix of 05/06 systems so some are S.O.L if their warranty expired .

If your under warranty and you have some problems m$ will pretty much just wait for your box to be received by the repair center and ship you another one almost immediately. Im sure all thats done is a cursory inspection of your box to make sure it isnt modded or whatever and then they send you a replacement, no questions asked. You should already factor in the $60 for the extended warranty in the price of the console, trust me its worth it.

Yes M$ cust service reps suck, but the only way around that is have a warranty. I’ve had my system since launch last year and had to replace it once but it was my error (dvd’s wouldnt play right but probly cause i had the av cables running thru my dvd player and it fucked with the copy protection). This most recent freezing is the only real problem I have had with it and I already have my return shipping box at home for it.

[quote]BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
first off, the whole thing about the 360 bricking is old now, ms fixed this problem to where there are no new ones on the shelves that are bricking, in fact if your console bricked and it wasnt under warranty anymore (mine) you sent it in and paid 120$ to fix it i was so pissed. but just recently ms came out and refunded everyones money and gave them a free year of warranty. (my check came yesterday)

now like any console launch there are gonna be problems, the ps3 has already had many:
bricking- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVXzN7jCcRA
HDMI-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXefPf4m8Vo

and like (i believe) pookie said the future in hd content isnt gonna be on some new 30$ disc its all gonna be downloadable, (just remember where the porn industry goes, the world follows). with that said today, the 22nd, ms’ online movie and tv show download service launches today, via xbox live.

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What exactly is “bricking”?

[quote]JonP wrote:
BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
first off, the whole thing about the 360 bricking is old now, ms fixed this problem to where there are no new ones on the shelves that are bricking, in fact if your console bricked and it wasnt under warranty anymore (mine) you sent it in and paid 120$ to fix it i was so pissed. but just recently ms came out and refunded everyones money and gave them a free year of warranty. (my check came yesterday)

now like any console launch there are gonna be problems, the ps3 has already had many:
bricking- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVXzN7jCcRA
HDMI-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXefPf4m8Vo

and like (i believe) pookie said the future in hd content isnt gonna be on some new 30$ disc its all gonna be downloadable, (just remember where the porn industry goes, the world follows). with that said today, the 22nd, ms’ online movie and tv show download service launches today, via xbox live.

What exactly is “bricking”?[/quote]

bricking is when your device becomes completely useless and just sits there like a brick.

[quote]fallout188 wrote:
I’ve noticed that there’s a couple of gaming posts floating around so I thought it’d be a good time to post this question.

I have a problem. I can either wait to get a PS3 or get the 360 right now with 4 additional games one of them being Gears of War.

What to do!!!??

PS3 will cost me about 600 bucks but the 360 with 4 games will cost me 450. Only problem is I already have many PS2 games and there are many series of games that I like and know that they are coming to the next gen. One interesting thing I’ve also heard is that the PS3 isn’t backward compatible? Can any gamers shed some light on this?

More trouble. Also that the 360 isn’t HD ready right out of the box and it will cost 100 more dollars for the HD add on.

On the flip side the delay of the PS3 has many companies distributing to the 360 as well instead of exclusively to the PS3 like the GTA series, FEAR, Assasin’s Creed, and many more. Many of the exclusive games that used to be for the PS3 were the driving reason to get one for me. But now it’s on both!

Somebody help me I’m lost in the confusion of this console war.

Also the Wii looks kind of interesting especially the boxing game and Call of Duty 3 where you move the controller to rifle butt your enemy’s and use it like the rifle in duck hunt for SNES which is a pretty smart idea and will probably also get some of those kids up off their butts and moving even if isn’t exactly “exercise” as some people know it to be.

Too many options. Somebody help me out. Argue it out like you’d like you’d argue over split training and fullbody workouts. [/quote]

I got my 360 at launch and I believe i got my money worth. I think if you own an HDTV then the graphics on both the ps3 and the XBOX360 will be comparable. It comes down to the games and the 360 has a year head start and the games for the ps3 just arent there yet. When a killer game does come out i think i just my drop the $800 for the ps3.(i’m including the system, extra controller, cables, and game in that price)

[quote]JonP wrote:
BrwnbellyYankee wrote:
first off, the whole thing about the 360 bricking is old now, ms fixed this problem to where there are no new ones on the shelves that are bricking, in fact if your console bricked and it wasnt under warranty anymore (mine) you sent it in and paid 120$ to fix it i was so pissed. but just recently ms came out and refunded everyones money and gave them a free year of warranty. (my check came yesterday)

now like any console launch there are gonna be problems, the ps3 has already had many:
bricking- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVXzN7jCcRA
HDMI-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXefPf4m8Vo

and like (i believe) pookie said the future in hd content isnt gonna be on some new 30$ disc its all gonna be downloadable, (just remember where the porn industry goes, the world follows). with that said today, the 22nd, ms’ online movie and tv show download service launches today, via xbox live.

What exactly is “bricking”?[/quote]

The system dies, either due to overheating or some errors in the software… hence the box becomes as useful as a brick.

My parents just got me a 360 for christmas. There goes all my university homework.

I know this is a ps3 v. 360 thread, but I think the Wii will be able to hold its own with the games. The controller, along with being motion sensing, is also viable as just a regular controller if I remember right. It might look strange but it will work just like any other controller does.

I predict that the kids will use the motion sensing and the games that come out for the 20somethings will end up just using the controller with minor emphasis on the motion sensing.

Get an Xbox 360.

I play Oblivion on mine almost every day.

It seems that most really good games come out of both platforms eventually.

I think it just depends on your style of gaming, do you like fps and 3rd person shoot em ups, and more of a hardcore gaming experience, or do you like the ps3 that has more diverse games.

But if your problem is game series, games alwyas evntually come out for both platforms, i personalyl had a ps2, then converted to a 360… i play gears of war which is one of the best games/online games ive ever played…really how can u match being able to chainsaw a guy with your gun and blood spatter all over your screen?

[quote]Dirty Tiger wrote:
Get an Xbox 360.

I play Oblivion on mine almost every day.

It seems that most really good games come out of both platforms eventually.

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It looks to me like the ps3 is gonna have stupid games.
The x box 360 already has awesome games coming out or are already out:

Call of duty 2 and 3,Halo 3,gears of war,oblivion.
Lots of great games already coming out.

[quote]pookie wrote:
Blu-Ray vs. HD is pretty much a wash for me. I think both formats are too little, too late. The future of HD is streaming the content over broadband, not buying shiny disks in boxes. DVD offered many advantages over VHS tape (no rewinding, alternate soundtracks, bonus material, etc) but HDDVD/BRD offer basically except for a better resolution (which only about 3% of existing TVs can correctly display.) So, currently, I don’t care about playing HD movies on my console, but Sony forces it on me.
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This is what I find interesting about The XBox 360 right now and the XBox Live Marketplace. As of yesterday, you can now buy movies and TV shows for download to your 360:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/marketplace/moviestv/default.htm

The only head scratching piece to me is if they planned on going this route anyway, why not give us the chance to get a bigger hard drive than 20 GB? I understand there are some fairly simple mods so you can use an external USB hard drive with your 360, but why even force the average person to go that far?

I thought the pricing on the downloads was pretty good as well.

[quote]Dirty Tiger wrote:
Get an Xbox 360.

I play Oblivion on mine almost every day.

It seems that most really good games come out of both platforms eventually.

[/quote]

Love that game and playing a ton myself. I think one of the most interesting aspects is the add-ons they offer for purchase and download. I mean, if you love a game, why wouldn’t you download more content for a few bucks to extend it?

I keep wondering if console games will go the route of some PC games with full-on expansion packs for purchase with new missions or whatever.