Nobody said that in this thread. I was just exaggerating for effect. Normally I try to avoid that. But the other post seemed like an unwarranted criticism…
Isn’t that just typical of most people; if their camp knocks something , so do they - whether they have experience with it or not. I did they same for a looooong time … if Darden or Leistner said it was bullshit, so did I - whether I tried it or not.
LOL , and now after following their ( and others ) lead for about 50 years , we find out that training all out to failure wasn’t the way to go after all, LOL. Yet, doing something just because ‘your guy’ says its the way to go , still prevails …
I did a set of Leg Presses today, with good slow reps in the middle — 30 sec Neg / 5 slow reps with statics / only made 25 sec on the last negative. The whole set was right at 2 minutes! Didn’t seem too bad at the time, but I am feeling it tonight!!
You read wrong!
Won’t be the first or the last time, lol
I will check my books to see if I am
I looked, i didnt see anything
Guess I was wrong then…my apologies, post deleted
McGuff and Little, Body By Science, Questions and Answers, book. Question addressed about resistance bands. Don’t take my word for it … look for yourself
AA,
I purchased the book.
My wife and I, both use my Nautilus OME to hang and stretch the shoulder Coracoacromial ligament. The adjustable OME carriage chin/dip apparatus makes hanging with an OVER-HAND grip easy. Hang for about 20 seconds or so! Gripping straps/hooks are ok also. Range of motion light dumbbell work is also advised by Dr. Kirsch.
My shoulder has lost the acute pain and tightness when reaching overhead. I thank you!
I do dead hangs for 60 seconds as my lat stretch after back work. Definitely feels great for pumping extra blood into the lats.
Interestingly, I purchased Dr. Kirsch’s book. I did so because I had developed shoulder pain. I could not do overhead pressing with my left arm without pain. The stiffness of my left shoulder was significant also. I stopped all OHPing and did static decline presses on my Nautilus Double Chest.
I rigged my Nautilus OME at just the right height to hang with feet touching the ground. It only took a short time for my shoulder to improve greatly after doing Dr. Kirsch’s regimen.
What is so infuriating is Bill DeSimone’s comments on this regimen. I am very disappointed in his unwarranted derogatory statements. No wonder just a few like HiT!
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From YouTube:
Hi Bill, any thoughts on the benefits of hanging from a chin bar for shoulder pain solutions. Is this a joint friendly manoeuvre or something to avoid? Some pain in elbows and brachillis following this procedure. Best Regards.
Bill DeSimone
1 month ago
No. Avoid. Especially if your own observations are pain. I know some expert on the internet somewhere is recommending this, but this is one of those cases where the “revolutionary” solution blatantly contradicts the obvious conventional approach. What does that expert care? He just wants clicks. The way to stretch the shoulder is the pendulum move, but get it checked by an actual MD or Physical Therapist just to rule out anything potentially catastrophic. I didn’t and I should have. Best, BD
About a month ago, I slipped on ice shoveling snow on my driveway.
As I fell back to the ground, my left hand extended outward onto the ice. I ended up with (the long) biceps tendon bursitis. That tendon goes right into the shoulder ball joint. It felt like extreme stretching a quick sharp pain when it happened. My Dr. looked at it and said it will just take time.
I’ve been using heat and stretching exercises daily that targets the area…seems to be helping. But still there to a lesser degree.
I have done no upper body training since the accident…training only legs. But anxious to jump in with very light stuff.
Any thoughts on this kind of healing injury? From the PT stuff I read, rotator cuff exercises key to build strength around the biceps tendon.
Wait and listen to the PT. Some people may not agree with them. But they are not going to tell you to do something that will hurt you.
Time takes time.
My wife tore her rotator cuff in two places. It took a long time to heal. She does a lot of heavy lifting at work. Heavy for here size and strength.
She is strong for sure. But it’s been seven years since she had it fixed. She listened to the PT. It took almost a year for it to fully heal. She has
never had an issue since. She still does the same work.
And DeSimone has people doing a form of the SuperMan exercise for the lower back videos. Dr. Stuart McGill, a lower back expert, has said this particular exercise puts extensive pressure on the lower back. Guess who I will listen to?
Only because you are a very longtime Dr Darden contributor, I give this advice.
Stick to the Dr.’s advice. It will take a long time. Much longer than muscle injuries. Lots of NO weights hand movements to get blood flow. Do not load a stretched position. If you got to do something out of boredom, do long duration statics in a pain-less position.
Yes, the stretched position is where the irritation can be felt, or certain angles that affect it. I was thinking of light partial exercises, rotator cuff exercises which surround the tendon, and maybe some mid range statics.
IMHO, I would let the pain subside for a while, then, start using no weight at all, while doing a range of movement that produces no pain, with the goal of promoting blood flow.
Blood flow brings healing supplies.
Yes, always try to avoid any pain.
I know on several nights, I kind of made it temporarily worse in my sleep.
HH32,
I even got a pillow to help take pressure off my shoulder to alleviate pain. I’m a side sleeper so the pillow needed to support my weight to alleviate the pressure of gravity
I’m a side sleeper too. Fortunately, I sleep on my right side (typically except for that turn in my sleep) which is my good side. But I think in my sleep, I move or extended my left arm with the biceps tendon issue) stretching it too much. I was thinking of getting a shoulder strap but I think that would just disrupt my sleep in general too much. But the issue is slowly getting better.