Before people jump all over me about not making much gains on short cycles, my goal is not to bulk up massively in one cycle. I am instead looking to gain and keep a few solid pounds each time, repeating short 2-3 week cycles several times with 3-6 weeks in between each time. A sudden massive gain would raise questions I don’t need, and besides I like the philosophy of the repeated short cycles better. For anything else including my stats and background, check the link above.
Instead of rewriting my background stuff and the previous cycle I did a few weeks ago, follow the link above if you want to look at it.
Basically, I am testing out the short cycle thing. The last two weeks of October, I started up the 10,000 KB Swing workout. My 4 lifts were military press (125#), weighted pullups (80#), front squats (275#), and weighted dips (100#). After two weeks, I was noticeably leaner but didn’t really drop any pounds on the scale. I started it at 204, and after two weeks was 206. This is also when I stopped, since I got bored with it. I’ve never been real big on cardio, so doing it 5 days a week got old really fast. However, I had to do the PRT in the middle of the second week, and ran a 9:30 1.5 mile. This is good for me, especially considering I barely run at all any more and when I do, it is typically sprints.
Coming off those 2 weeks, I started a short run of tbol (40mg/day) by itself (I know, oral only cycles suck, yada yada). This was more a chance to get my feet wet again, since I hadn’t done a cycle in over ten years. And I was experimenting a little, just to try it out. Didn’t take an AI with it, and saw no bloat or other sides. Planned on two weeks, but I was just starting to feel it at that point so I stretched to 3. The first week off, I took 20mg/day Nolvadex just as a precaution but really don’t feel I needed it. The first day of ‘PCT’ I was 213 and dropped to 210 by the end of the week. This is no biggie, since my weight fluctuates a lot in this range anyway.
I only took 2 weeks off, but I don’t feel that is a big deal since the tbol was so mild. I then ran a two week cycle of cut stack (50mg each tren ace, test prop, and mast prop). Injected everyday, 1ml each day for 12 days. Started at 207.5 and got up to 216. I skipped the AI again since tren doesn’t aromatize and I expected the mast to take care of the test, but I’m not sure I did. Got some sides off that- lowered libido, weakened erections, trouble finishing. My wife knew I was on, so she knew what to expect. We both thought it was a little funny, though also frustrating. The last 4-5 days of the cycle I thought I was getting a little bloat, so I took 1mg/day arimidex days 10-15, then started PCT with nolva 40/20.
I’ve now been off 4 weeks. This week was a deload (I follow Beyond 531), but instead of doing all the lifts, I did swings all week since I liked the conditioning effect and fat loss from it. I’ve also developed a bit of what I think is bicep tendonitis, so I wanted to take it a little easier this week and rehab that a bit. Did weighted pullups at 80# one day and front squats at 275# another. Five days of swings (including the two with lifts mixed in) and I did a total of 2700 swings with a 50# kb. I am currently on travel, at about 4000 feet elevation so that effected my lifting/swinging a little. I also don’t have a scale in my room, so I have to weigh at the gym after drinking a shake and wearing clothes. I was 213 today clothed with only some water and the start of my BCAA mix before weighing, so probably 210-211.
Tomorrow (day 0, day 1 being monday the first lifting day of the week), I am going to start another cycle, adding in a couple more compounds.
Day 0-21 - winstrol 60mg/ED
Day 0-21 - turinabol 60mg/ED
Day 8-19 - cut stack 1ml/ED (50mg tren ace/50mg test prop/50mg mast prop per ml)
Day 8-28 - P5P 200mg/ED, Vit E 400mg/ED, SAMe 1200mg/ED (prolactin control)
Day 8-21 - Arimidex 0.5mg/ED (frontload 1mg day 8)
Day 22-28 - nolvadex 40mg/ED (first week off)
Day 29-42 - nolvadex 20mg/ED (second and third weeks off)
Again, goals are not a massive increase in weight, but rather some good quality muscle gain while losing some fat. I am happy with the dosages for the cycle itself, but any notes on PCT would be appreciated. I’ve read some stuff about not using tren and nolvadex together, but from what I can find that is mainly concerned with running them concurrently, not using nolva as PCT when tren levels should have dropped pretty well. And nolva is what I have, so that is what I am running. Last time I felt like I struggled a little during PCT (not in the gym but in the bedroom), but I chalk a lot of that up to not using an AI. I’ll see what happens this time.
I plan on updating this log to show my results from repeated cycles. The few threads I can find about short cycles always say they will and then don’t, leaving people such as myself with unanswered questions. I may actually run this as a training log kind of thing, in order to illustrate my lifting in between cycles as well (note: my 531 numbers continue to climb even off cycle, and I actually set another deadlift PR <450#> on my 3rd off week).
Also, I took measurements last week before doing the week of swings. I will do that again tomorrow (off day) and go weigh myself at the gym in order to have a measurable starting point. I also plan on doing this at the end (at the minimum, if not each weekend).