[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
CT - A few days in and honestly I’m weaker and flatter, no pump. Depressing/disappointing that my body can’t seem to plow through and make gains off this style of training. I feel like some rest days are warranted but crave the habit/stimulation of going to the gym. I’m blending elements of your layer training and HFSW.
For instance, “practiced” the clean and press 4x last two days on top of SGHP and bench layers…Is this sort of overlap doable? I guess my body is answering no but I’d LIKE to train a lift 3-5x+ a week, using low reps, chasing performance rather than fatigue, 2x a day.
Do you think there’s any physique benefits from this or is this just strength/skill (I’m picturing the majority of weightlifters who train this way and either look bulky/fat or smoothed out). Feeling like I’m regressing so just wanted to see if it’s training related or I should up meal frequency/carb intake significantly…thanks. [/quote]
I’m actually glad that this happened to you! I didn’t want to answer your original post because I was starting to see you move into a very bad pattern (stimulus addiction) and I KNOW for a fact that a stimulus addict will NOT listen to advice… he has to suffer the ill effects to understand.
Now, are two-a-days beneficial? Yes, if you can recover from them. Now… recovering from them is a matter of several things:
Body’s tolerance to training… this is normally developed by GRADUALLY increasing frequency. Elite athletes do not start out at 2 daily session… they might train 4 days a week for a few years, then 5 days a week, 6 days a week, then 6 days a week + 1 two-a-day, then 6 + 2 two-a-day, etc. It is built up over YEARS
Nervous system resiliency… just like some people are more prone to burning out or suffering a depression, some people are more prone to neural fatigue and/or adrenal burnout
Anabolic drug use… obviously an athlete who uses drugs recover faster and can train more often
Nutritional status… doing frequent two-a-day while losing fat (either voluntarily by cutting calories or simply by not eating enough for your activity level) is one of the worst thing you can do for performance, looks and well-being.
Level of the workouts… two-a-days are normally very bad for stimulus addicts because they cannot properly modulate the amount of work or the intensity they put into each session and end up doing WAY too much or either or both.
From my experience two-a-days is best suited for performance increase (sport) or gaining muscle… and both requires an ample amount of food… if you are losing fat during two-a-days you are not consuming enough food to be able to sustain, and thrive on such a training pattern. Sure you can argue that you train twice-a-day to burn more fat/calories. To me that is a mistake because it means that the body will not have enough nutrients to recover. See, losing fat from 1 training a day is not the same thing because your body is likely to still have the ressources to recover, at least enough to avoid a crash.
Ok thanks much for that CT. Oddly enough, I feel like more frequent eating (not just more calories) is necessary for this as well. Shoving down high caloric foods (even junk foods) in an intermittent fasting type style doesn’t seem to do it. I’ll be more mindful…