27 Years Old 187lbs

Got my updates from Marc Sunday. Bumped things up with diet but wants me to keep training just as it has been.

Macros on all days (on and off) set at:

300g carbs
255g protein
90g fats

Still dropped out all HIIT in favor of 3 LISS sessions kept under 140bpm and nothing over 30 minutes. Third week without HIIT so will see if that removal has the desired outcomes. Also keeping with the lower volume workouts in favor of short and sweet high intensity techniques to get in and out of the gym quicker.

Was 195lbs last Saturday morning, 192lbs this past Saturday morning. Not the happiest about that but I’ll do as I am told and nothing more/less. Compliance is key to making this work long term.

I think you’re wasting youre money if you’re paying for diet consultation at this point.

I’m 6’2 and weigh about 217 and I still feel like I need to gain some weight.

Eat more, squat more,dead more, bench more. Gain 60 pounds, then cut.

[quote]illgixxer wrote:
I think you’re wasting youre money if you’re paying for diet consultation at this point.[/quote]

Why is that? Why would it not be helpful to have a 3rd independent eye trained on what to look for to assure I am making the gains I need to be making in the places I need to make it at the rate I should be making it? How is that wasting money? Just asking…

Marc has bumped me up to the follows macros as of yesterday after seeing this Sundays pics and stats.

I lost 1.5lbs over the week with no added cardio and an increase of 250 calories from the week before.

Now at:

277 protein
350 carbs
90 fats

5-6 meals a day still, 3x a week LISS cardio for 30 minutes and 5 days lifting. Same as before.

Last nights AYCE sushi cheat meal best get me a nice jump on seeing the damn scale creep up this coming weekend!

5 rolls in an hour baby! First time trying real deal sushi at that…I am now a fan for life!

Today is the end of the 4th week working with Marc and thus my 5th set of stats and pictures will be posted later today. This morning I was 194.5lbs and 11% bodyfat based on the same BIA reading I always use. That’s 7lbs increase in weight and 0.9% increase in bodyfat since June 18th. Strength is also higher then ever in the big 3. I am not looking to shoot for higher maximum 1RM weight in the big 3 directly but rather better my 5RM loads. When I can get 6 reps on any one lift I add enough weight to stay in a 5RM range.

Based on gains and pictures I will see what Marc has me do in the coming week.

[quote]La Crosse Grad wrote:
Really thinking about trying my luck at the mens physique division of two local NANBF contests this summer. Late July and early August specifically. I am 6’1"

Sorry no leg shots, these were all had from recently. Going to try and get some good lighting/angle shots today full body.

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Dude even in the women division you would get your ass kicked…wake up! and for the love of god stop doing bb poses if you are not a bodybuilder you just look lame in doing so…stop trying to flex invisible muscle

After reading the thread I can’t resist the temptation to say something.

OP, you are way overthinking this stuff and its not fun for outside observers to follow along. Your apporach to training and this thread resembles that of someone who has been training for years and is in the last few weeks leading up to his first show. That is the wrong approach. You approach should be that of someone who still has years of hard work ahead of them before they can mention the stage and not have people LOL.

[quote]M.B wrote:

[quote]La Crosse Grad wrote:
Really thinking about trying my luck at the mens physique division of two local NANBF contests this summer. Late July and early August specifically. I am 6’1"

Sorry no leg shots, these were all had from recently. Going to try and get some good lighting/angle shots today full body.

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Dude even in the women division you would get your ass kicked…wake up! and for the love of god stop doing bb poses if you are not a bodybuilder you just look lame in doing so…stop trying to flex invisible muscle[/quote]

I only do those poses because Marc has asked me to send picture updates with me doing those poses to best display changes in symmetry and gains in size at all angles. I first thought all he would want was a front, back and both sides shot…not the case.

I still contend that competing as a bodybuilder is not my goal anytime soon at all. Just gaining muscle size is all. Why the constant linking to my being on stage if that’s not my objective?

[quote]Moe Doobie wrote:
After reading the thread I can’t resist the temptation to say something.

OP, you are way overthinking this stuff and its not fun for outside observers to follow along. Your apporach to training and this thread resembles that of someone who has been training for years and is in the last few weeks leading up to his first show. That is the wrong approach. You approach should be that of someone who still has years of hard work ahead of them before they can mention the stage and not have people LOL.[/quote]

If thats the approach I give off then I state right now thats my bad. I never had any intention at all in making anyone think I was or am planning to compete in anything related to bodybuilding. In fact thats the opposite of what I was trying to do with my first post with my pictures.

All I wanted to was feedback on my build, initial status, weak points and then any helpful suggestions the vets here could offer me. Since then I have of course hired Marc and he has been a huge help in supporting a guy like me with my struggles to add strength and size.

I dont think its wrong or inappropriate for anyone to work with someone as coach is there? You dont have to be some pro big shot or NPC stud to have a person working with you do you? I guess I do not see the issue there…?

However I say once more, I do not nor have I stated to be someone with years and years of expert experience and tons or progress. My very reason in being here is to gain more insights, tips, suggestions and assistance in pursuing my goals, short and long term alike.

Please offer me some suggestions on how I can change the vibe I am giving off in this thread to better display my intentions here.

OP, these were the first words you typed:

Really thinking about trying my luck at the mens physique division of two local NANBF contests this summer.

Right below the pic of you flexing in the mirror. That is why people are responding the way they are. Is there any other way to read that sentence than to think you were planning on competing in bodybuilding? Someone point it out to me if there is.

[quote]Moe Doobie wrote:
After reading the thread I can’t resist the temptation to say something.

OP, you are way overthinking this stuff and its not fun for outside observers to follow along. Your apporach to training and this thread resembles that of someone who has been training for years and is in the last few weeks leading up to his first show. That is the wrong approach. You approach should be that of someone who still has years of hard work ahead of them before they can mention the stage and not have people LOL.[/quote]

He needs to put off the idea of a show in the near future and starting eating. It’s really pretty simple. Eat lots of calorie dense food. Step away from the sushi bar and eat a half-pounder with cheese washed down with a pint of milk. Have some broccoli to go with it. No need for a dietitian at this point.

I got this crazy idea the other day: newbies should eat a shit load of food and lift heavy for a year before posting more pictures to T-Nation. Might be a good idea, might not.

[quote]louiek wrote:
I got this crazy idea the other day: newbies should eat a shit load of food and lift heavy for a year before posting more pictures to T-Nation. Might be a good idea, might not.[/quote]

Black magic! There is no room for your socery here.

[quote]SBGuerrilla wrote:

[quote]louiek wrote:
I got this crazy idea the other day: newbies should eat a shit load of food and lift heavy for a year before posting more pictures to T-Nation. Might be a good idea, might not.[/quote]

Black magic! There is no room for your socery here. [/quote]

Sorry, typo, I meant to write hire a diet specialist when your arms are 14".

[quote]booksbikesbeer wrote:
OP, these were the first words you typed:

Really thinking about trying my luck at the mens physique division of two local NANBF contests this summer.

Right below the pic of you flexing in the mirror. That is why people are responding the way they are. Is there any other way to read that sentence than to think you were planning on competing in bodybuilding? Someone point it out to me if there is.[/quote]

Ok good point on that. WHEN that post was made back in mid April it became a moot point 3 weeks later (I never did express the change) when I got the job offer for the position I just started a week ago with the DoD. Moving 2000 miles away will do that to anyone’s plans of any kind. Marc has since confirmed with me it was best to opt out of any shows of any kind until I got to 215 or higher for my height, age and build. Let this be clarification on that first post I made as it no longer stands accurate. My bad!

[quote]grox wrote:

[quote]Moe Doobie wrote:
After reading the thread I can’t resist the temptation to say something.

OP, you are way overthinking this stuff and its not fun for outside observers to follow along. Your apporach to training and this thread resembles that of someone who has been training for years and is in the last few weeks leading up to his first show. That is the wrong approach. You approach should be that of someone who still has years of hard work ahead of them before they can mention the stage and not have people LOL.[/quote]

He needs to put off the idea of a show in the near future and starting eating. It’s really pretty simple. Eat lots of calorie dense food. Step away from the sushi bar and eat a half-pounder with cheese washed down with a pint of milk. Have some broccoli to go with it. No need for a dietitian at this point.[/quote]

Apparently you have not seen the glorious little burger images I post over on tigerfitness.com

I post up my weekend cheat meals along with my daily workouts there. Its been a different burger joint every weekend for 6 weeks now. Not just fast food shit either. I’m talking best in the city joints with the works and of course and apps and desserts with every one. Marc does not “allow” these cheats, he “requires” me to have them as part of the whole plan he has had me on. The sushi trip was in addition to that weekends burger cheat. Plus…who passes up free top notch sushi? Not this guy!

Been out of town in Norfolk, VA for the past week (since Monday morning) for work training. Got back yesterday evening. I got 3 mild workouts in while in Norfolk which worked well because I planned it in as a deload week for me. I had to do 4 days of cardio as well because the manager I was trained under basically asked us all to join her for 6am workouts which was all running…I cringed at the sound of the word running! Not for the sake of it being difficult but because its the last thing I need as a struggling ecto in the offseason!

It showed this morning to as I am back to 191.5! I’m shot right back to where I was June 16th! 5 weeks time and only 1/2 lb net gain! I would have just ate a shit laod more but the training we had all day limited my chances to eat my 6 meals along with what food I could bring with me to eat (no hotel fridge or micro…so not cool!)

I took (along with last Sunday) Monday and Friday 100% off this week with no weights or cardio. Tuesday-Thursday I trained and covered the whole body in those 3 days. Yesterday was a very easy dog walk when I got home to stretch the legs from 3 hours of plane rides. Today the same thing, dog walk for 45 minutes or so. Back to action tomorrow for the last 2 workouts I will have in Wisconsin for many, many, many months as I will be leaving for Seattle on Wednesday morning to move out for my formal job location with the Navy MWR division! I start there the 30th so I have some time to get moved in and settled.

Pics coming later today as always. Open to comments and suggestions from all.

This idea that people “can’t” eat enough food to gain weight is kind of starting to piss me off.

Worst-case scenario: take ten minutes from your workout time to eat food. It would be more advantageous.

Put on 5lbs this past week going from this Sunday morning back to the Sunday morning prior to that. Odd in that I was down 4lbs the week prior to that…go figure that one out!!!

Marc has me at 3500 steady now for going on the 2nd week in a row with the same macro split. My only concern now is that with my new job well underway now I have several daily fitness groups to lead for Navy Fitness PT. I get smack in the middle of the drills, runs, and workouts they do not to mention hauling out and in all the set up for equipment needs and what not. That will make for some additional energy output for sure most days of the week compared to the last 5-6 weeks. Will see what the pics and scale show and how it may or may not effect things.