Hey guys,
Long time lurker here looking to see if any of the knowledgeable people here can get me on track. @KSman
A little bit of history; I started using AAS at the age of 21 and when I was 23 I went on a 6 month cruise of Test, Tren, and Masteron. I pct’ed with Clomid but it may have been bunk because when i tested several months later I was totally shut down, feeling unmotivated, unhappy, depressed, etc.
The endo told me to ride it out and let my body do its thing and 2 months later I tested in the 200’s range of test from a mere 42 (1st blood test).
As the years continued I ran a few designer prohormone cycles and pct’ed with clomid each and every time. I was never able to relate the feelings of lack of motivation, unhappiness, and depression to my low test because I always thought I was unhappy because of personal stressors in my life and was so wrapped up in my own career.
I have had low test for 2-3 years now and have just realized I need to tackle this before it further spirals out of control. I wanted to give an example of my past abuse and acknowledge it. At this point in time I’d be willing to stop cycling for ever in order to maintain a functioning HPTA.
At 27 years old, my last cycle consisted of trestolone (can shut you down fast) and a few other designers (no long esters). 2 weeks post clomid here are my values:
CBC With Differential/Platelet
** WBC 4.4 x10E3/uL 3.4 − 10.8 01**
** RBC 5.10 x10E6/uL 4.14 − 5.80 01**
** Hemoglobin 16.2 g/dL 12.6 − 17.7 01**
** Hematocrit 46.8 % 37.5 − 51.0 01**
** MCV 92 fL 79 − 97 01**
** MCH 31.8 pg 26.6 − 33.0 01**
** MCHC 34.6 g/dL 31.5 − 35.7 01**
** RDW 14.0 % 12.3 − 15.4 01**
** Platelets 185 x10E3/uL 150 − 379 01**
** Neutrophils 56 % 01**
** Lymphs 29 % 01**
** Monocytes 13 % 01**
** Eos 1 % 01**
** Basos 1 % 01**
** Neutrophils (Absolute) 2.5 x10E3/uL 1.4 − 7.0 01**
** Lymphs (Absolute) 1.3 x10E3/uL 0.7 − 3.1 01**
** Monocytes(Absolute) 0.6 x10E3/uL 0.1 − 0.9 01**
** Eos (Absolute) 0.1 x10E3/uL 0.0 − 0.4 01**
** Baso (Absolute) 0.0 x10E3/uL 0.0 − 0.2 01**
** Immature Granulocytes 0 % 01**
** Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 x10E3/uL 0.0 − 0.1 01**
SPACE
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
** Glucose, Serum 83 mg/dL 65 − 99 01**
** BUN 17 mg/dL 6 − 20 01**
** Creatinine, Serum 1.00 mg/dL 0.76 − 1.27 01**
** eGFR If NonAfricn Am 103 mL/min/1.73 >59**
** eGFR If Africn Am 119 mL/min/1.73 >59**
** BUN/Creatinine Ratio 17 8 − 19**
** Sodium, Serum 141 mmol/L 134 − 144 01**
Potassium, Serum 4.3 mmol/L 3.5 − 5.2 01
** Chloride, Serum 103 mmol/L 97 − 108 01**
** Carbon Dioxide, Total 22 mmol/L 18 − 29 01**
** Calcium, Serum 9.2 mg/dL 8.7 − 10.2 01**
** Protein, Total, Serum 6.4 g/dL 6.0 − 8.5 01**
** Albumin, Serum 4.2 g/dL 3.5 − 5.5 01**
** Globulin, Total 2.2 g/dL 1.5 − 4.5**
** A/G Ratio 1.9 1.1 − 2.5**
** Bilirubin, Total 0.4 mg/dL 0.0 − 1.2 01**
** Alkaline Phosphatase, S 71 IU/L 39 − 117 01**
** AST (SGOT) 35 IU/L 0 − 40 01**
** ALT (SGPT) 41 IU/L 0 − 44 01**
SPACE
Lipid Panel With LDL/HDL Ratio
** Cholesterol, Total 137 mg/dL 100 − 199 01**
** Triglycerides 64 mg/dL 0 − 149 01**
** HDL Cholesterol 50 mg/dL >39 01**
** Comment 01**
** According to ATP−III Guidelines, HDL−C >59 mg/dL is considered a**
** negative risk factor for CHD.**
** VLDL Cholesterol Cal 13 mg/dL 5 − 40**
** LDL Cholesterol Calc 74 mg/dL 0 − 99**
** LDL/HDL Ratio 1.5 ratio units 0.0 − 3.6**
** Please Note: 01**
** LDL/HDL Ratio**
** Men Women**
** 1/2 Avg.Risk 1.0 1.5**
** Avg.Risk 3.6 3.2**
** 2X Avg.Risk 6.2 5.0**
** 3X Avg.Risk 8.0 6.1**
SPACE
Testosterone Free MS/Dialysis
** Testosterone, Serum (Total) 391 ng/dL 02**
1.6 % 02
** % Free Testosterone (Dialysis)**
** Reference Range:**
** Adult Males: 1.5 − 3.2**
** Free Testosterone, Serum 63 pg/mL 02**
** Reference Range:**
** Adult Males: 52 − 280**
SPACE
Estradiol, LCMS, Endo Sci
** Estradiol, Serum, MS 14 pg/mL 02**
** Reference Range:**
** Adult Males: 8.0 − 35**
Cortisol, Serum LCMS, Endo Sci
** Cortisol, Serum LCMS 17 ug/dL 02**
** Reference Range:**
** Adults**
** 8:00 AM 8.0 − 19**
** 4:00 PM 4.0 − 11**
SPACE
Prolactin, Serum (ICMA)
** Prolactin, Serum (ICMA) 12 ng/mL 02**
** Hook effect or prozone effect has been ruled out by**
** performing additional dilution analysis on all prolactin**
** testing.**
** Reference Range:**
** Children and Adult Males: 3 − 18**
SPACE
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin
** Sex Hormone Binding Globulin 27.0 nmol/L 02**
** Reference Range:**
** Pubertal: 16.0 − 100.0**
** 20 − 49y: 16.5 − 55.9**
** >49y: 19.3 − 76.4**
SPACE
Hemoglobin A1c
** Hemoglobin A1c 5.3 % 4.8 − 5.6 01**
** Please Note: 01**
** Pre−diabetes: 5.7 − 6.4**
** Diabetes: >6.4**
** Glycemic control for adults with diabetes: <7.0**
SPACE
Thyroxine (T4) Free, Direct, S
** T4,Free(Direct) 1.14 ng/dL 0.82 − 1.77 01**
SPACE
TSH 2.610 uIU/mL 0.450 − 4.500 01
SPACE
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
** LH 3.3 mIU/mL 1.7 − 8.6 01**
SPACE
FSH, Serum
** FSH 0.8 Low mIU/mL 1.5 − 12.4 01**
SPACE
Vitamin D, 25−Hydroxy 33.4 ng/mL 30.0 − 100.0 01ACTH, Plasma 56.4 pg/mL 7.2 − 63.3 01
Here are my values about 5 weeks after the last blood draw (about 2 months off clomid)
Estradiol, LCMS, Endo Sci
** Estradiol, Serum, MS 11 pg/mL 01**
** Reference Range:**
** Adult Males: 8.0 - 35**
Testosterone, Women/Child
** Testosterone, Serum (Total) 309 Low ng/dL 01**
** Reference Range:**
** Adult Males**
** >18 years 348 - 1197**
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin 43.4 nmol/L 01
** Reference Range:**
** Pubertal: 16.0 - 100.0**
** 20 - 49y: 16.5 - 55.9**
** >49y: 19.3 - 76.4**
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
** LH 2.7 mIU/mL 1.7 - 8.6 02**
FSH, Serum
** FSH 0.9 Low mIU/mL 1.5 - 12.4 02**
Please let me know what you guys think is happening with my body and what sort of HPTA restart would work best in my scenario. I am going to be seeing an endo but I want to educate myself regarding this matter as much as possible. Regarding how I feel currently, It’s hard to say, as I’ve gone cold turkey on stimulants / caffeine for the past 3 1/2 weeks and have reduced my supplement intake by 3/4 only taking KSM-66, Rhodiola, Spirulina, multivitamin, Vitamin D, and Fish oil. But i still feel lack of motivation, unhappiness, holding fat when i was always a mesomorph, even depression at times (seeing a counselor to really figure things out) despite the fact that I am quite successful in my career. I have increased my fats as well and plan on using natural test boosters like high grade tongkat ali and a few others in conjunction with whatever i use.
I was on clomid for 4 1/2 weeks at a 50/50/25/25 split and was using exemestane 25/25/12.5/12.5, the sides were terrible (depression) but i think i can handle it in exchange for correcting my hpta.
Thanks guys!
