I’ve been lurking around here in read only mode for a while. 1 week ago, after literally years of going back and forth in my head I decided to give TRT a go. Not too many guys are on trt at this young age so I would like to share my story and experiences and to get some good advice from smart people and document my journey.
My story: around 11-12 year old I started to develop gynecomastia, despite I didnt touch any dietary supplement that time, not even whey. My only speculation is my mother used to put very hot tea to plastic water bottles thru all my childhood lol very bad stuff. I did all kinds of sports in my life, even competed till age 17, so lack of excercise wasnt the root cause. I was skinnyfat when started to use weight training at age 15. Despite I put a lot of smart work in it and kept a clean diet I didnt really develop too much. Age 17: my first anabolic cycle. 500mg Galenika Enanthate weekly for 8 weeks total. I felt great man, like a normal teenager I guess I did a small pct afterwards, 2x5000 IU HCG and some nolva (I know now HIGH doses of HCG can ‘fry’ the system also). Didnt noticed any problems, only benefits, so I touched stronger stuff too. I had 4 cycles in my life, my last one had trenbolone in it- a known prolactin f*cker and I was 19. I dont remember exact amount(could look up in the abyss of my archives, but see no reason right now) but I never used too big of doses, or longer cycles than 10 weeks. For sure this didnt help my previously interrupted system and I do not recommend anyone taking AAS before age 25.
Had a skull MRI with contrast dye and I have no sign of any disease in my head. That was when I was 20. Came accross so many idiot doctors in my (almost) third world country that I gave up on them. I wasnt feeling good since that age, but I compensated with very good diet&excercise and a little bit weed to help coping with depression. I experiment quitting weed for extended periods (half year and couple 2-3 months) but that didnt help with depression and lack of motivation. I never really had ED except when my prolactin was very high ( couple months period). But I became a one shooter guy without PDE5ih. As I do not like using them at all I dropped’em and strengthen my PC muscles and took herbs ( arginine supps, maca, ginsengs, royal jelly, horny g weed, mucuna, -you name it and i probably tried it). Libido wasnt that high in past years, sometimes I looked at beatiful woman more like ppl look at a piece of art rather than something I desire. Had pretty girlfriends throught the years despite this and never really had bedrooom issues, except I was only capable 1/day, but with good stamina. If I felt GF got unpatient or had some valley in relationship than I just took some V or C occassionally ( 5-6 times a year maximum)
So till age 24 I just got by somehow. I managed to solved most of my depression and other mental problems with learning a lot and CBT, so things arent that bad but I just want some more quality to my life. Based on my past steroid abuse and previously interrupted hormonal system and very very low test I qualified myself for trt. Even at 20-21 wanted to jump on trt but gave this no trt route couple years, just good lifestyle etc.
Half year ago I had bad joint pain and I researched I could use 20mg ostarine for 30 days. I felt great on it and my joints felt reborn. I figured maybe its because it lowers SHBG and ‘frees’ up more TEST but I had stronger libido and everything that comes with it, and maybe more free test: better joints. Even my mild stuttering got lot better!! So I started to get interested in TRT again.
RESTART ATTEMPTS: Tried restarting couple of times, a protocol including HCG, nolva, clomid, toremifene, cabergoline - not everything at one time. I decided HCG only and Clomid only treatment is way too many sides for me. LH and FSH was good for a while as test, but then it dropped to baseline
I had couple BWs before this but unfortunately was on a hdd I dont have.
BW from 2012 may (this was after a PCT)
TSH 5,05 ( 0,35-4,94)
T3 4,3* (1,71-3,71)
T4 1,55 (0,7-1,8)
FSH 3,15 (1-8)
LH 3,5 (2-12)
Prolactin 9,7 (1,2-10,7)
Thyreoglobulin 17 (3-80)
Total test: 5 (2,8-8)
2012 aug: (after couple weeks of caber)
IGF 1 235 (141-483)
HGH 2,4 (0-8)
TSH 4,5 (0,27-4,2)
FT3 6 (3,1-6,8)
Prolactin: 152 (86-324)
Test: 10 (9,9-28)
SHBG: 26 (14,5-48)
FSH: 2 (1,5-12,4)
LH: 2.5 (1,7-8,6)
Estradiol 60 <156
Cortisol: 220 (171-536)
2013 may (after HCG and clomid. seems like it didnt help too much with test, but raised a bit since last bw)
Total test 15 (10-26,6)
DHEA: 7,2 ( didnt write down range but I was prescribed DHEA after this by endo)
FT4: 17 (12-22)
FT3 5,5 (3,1-6,8)
Dvit: 169 (75-250)
FSH: 2,9 (1,5-12,4)
LH: 4 (1,7-8,6)
Prolactin: 170 (86-324)
e2: 73 (28-156)
Total test: 17 (11-27,9)
Free test: 2 (1,6-2.9)
SHBG: 31,7 (13-71)
Albumin 50 (35-52)
TSH: 1,6 (0,4-4)
LH: 4,7 (1,24-8,2)
FSH: 3,31 (1,17-19,26)
Eostradiol: 88 (0-172,5)
Tot Test: 6,7 (6,1-27,1)
SHBG: 34 (13,3-89,5)
Prolactin: 150 (86-324)
So after this BW started extensive research once again and Decided to start TRT.
*depression (mostly eliminated by hard mental work)
*joint pains- it was very easy to get ache from training a bit harder
*lack of social needs except my actual GFs
*loss of libido
*lack of motivation - despite this I learned and worked a lot
*soft, squishy muscles despite trying all sorts of diet plans
*terrible sleep, lots of dreaming
hair: very thick and full beard, my hair was thinning on my head when used anabolics but I managed to stop hairloss since then (royal jelly, topical stuffs, good diet, minerals vitamins)
Also started supplementing with Iodine (kelp extract and spirulina) as well as selenium. Measured temperature it is constantly 36,5-36,7 every morning.
20mg Test Propionate Every day
150 HCG Every day
Arimidex 0,25mg 2x/week( as I had gyno issues and surgery and I think in last blood work my estro is pretty high compared to how low my testosterone is.)
I researched fertility and trt and came to conclusion that I still have very good chances if I want to have kids . But just to make sure I will go to a sperm bank in couple of weeks and get some of my magic bullets freezed up
My FSH is pretty low. Would it be benefical to start some HMG?
I’m open to any advice with my protocol or whatever.