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22, Thinking About a Test P and Test E Cycle


#1

Hi, I’ve just created an account here as I wanted advice for my first Cycle, I think I should do something like test first because from what I’ve read it is relatively safe with little side effects and I think it would be a great cycle to do without going in with 2 feet off the ground so to speak…

Test P 100mg EOD 1-4 weeks
Test E 400mg/Week 4-10 weeks (Every Sunday then Wednesday)
Week 12-14 Nolva 40mg
Week 14-16 Nolva 20mg
I’m thinking of running HCG through cycle at 1000 iu a week, Not sure which day to inject on a Sunday I will be injecting but it’s oil based so maybe I could mix it with the TestE/P?

I might buy the Rich Piana all round organ defence to promote the health of my organs, What do you guys say to this?


#2

Anyone? Is this a good idea?


#3

Your planned cycle is stupid and you need to read more.

You change from a short ester § to a longer ester (e) and, at that, you dose your test-e at or below a TRT dose? I take 125mg/wk test-e for TRT and 25mg test-pfor an initial boost.

I also see no AI, as if you’d even need that for weeks 4-10.

Also, I’d consider Nolva 20mg ED for 6 weeks. I’ve read that it’s the “new” 40/40/20/20. I came to the conclusion of this not from the repeated broscience, rather, higher doses (40mg, longer term though) causing liver failure in a study of Nolva on Scandinavian women.

Also, you’re gonna get shit here for being 22 and wanting to cycle. Some will say 25. I say age is arbitrary once you pass 18 and are old enough to be an adult; especially an adult that has held a rifle for our nation. Just keep it in the back of your head, you may never have kids again, even adding hCG.

Furthermore, you gotta be a special kind of stupid if you’re still active duty Army. They will charge you under UCMJ if caught by the wrong person. I know of one case - USMC, Ret.


#4

What are your stats?: weight, height, rough bodyfat, bench& deadlift max etc

Looking to get hyuuuge or just look ‘athletic’?


#5

Oops I forgot Armidex double oops I did a typo I was gonna say 400- 500mg a week split into two injections also my pic is just Shia Lebeouf I’m no soldier :joy: Thank you for your service


#6

I’m no mathematician or AAS expert, but I believe the idea behind a cycle is to have stable T levels.

When you’re switching from p to e, you may see a noticeable difference in feeling; whether that affects gains is another story and it may be mental than anything. It’d make much more sense to me to finish off with p instead of e as you’ll still have week 6 test-e still active… whereas week 4 test-p may be very low on your next test-e shot.


#7

5ft 7
70 kg Aesthetic


#8

Should I take different dosages to the ones I’ve planned in this instance and is the “never having kids again” part to do with if I got an estrogen build up?


#9

Oh boy. Yeah at 153lbs you are far away from needing gear, especially just to get aesthetic.

At 22 just eat a ton of protein and train hard on one of the proven programs like these and you will get up to 170+ fast and totally naturally…


#10

Say if I wanted to get a larger chest for proportion reasons should I do more bench variations and mix hypertrophies between sets in the 10 secrets programme? I heard the more you can lift the more potential growth you can have


#11

Just do it exactly as written for 6-8 weeks then evaluate. Dan John really knows his stuff -doing all the clean and press work as well as 5x5 bench will definetly build up your chest and also get you much stronger


#12

Okay and how much should I be pyramiding up with my weights like 5kg a week?


#13

Roughly 2.5 kg, maybe 5kg for the squat. Only really push for PR on the C workout.
Also its ok to stay on the same weights for a couple weeks, you will get stronger over time just from the overall volume of the program


#14

this is an alright cycle, front loading the test p and then into test e cycle is common , pct looks good too. Test is at 400 mg you can raise it a bit more to 500 without much sides gains at 500mg are good for starters. I recomend getting some AI for test - e. using it ED at 12mg if you start noticing puffy nips.


#15

no it’s not an alright cycle. what is wrong with you?


#16

Jesus is that you in that pic, That is literally my lifetime physique goal


#17

this is the same cycle i ran except i started with test prop + superdrol , real superdrol not that fake bullshit, gained around 12 lb lean after pct.


#18

thanks bro i have been hitting the weights for a long time though everything comes with dedication and patience keep at it.


#19

Yeah hear of Superdrol but not sure on its availability in the UK