Background: I was a very healthy teenager and supremely fit. I took finasteride for three months in 2015 which set me on a downward spiral: I contracted dry eye disease (meibomian glands), which is linked to low androgen levels + something specific about the drug. I have had it ever since coupled with severe anxiety. I also suffer from a host of other things from having not dealt with these effects/and living under high stress for 3 years: no sexual function, testicular pain, joint cracking/pain, floaters and eye problems developed especially last year. etc.
I took a year out since July to try to deal with it. Labs 06/17:
oestradiol 93 pmol/L
SHBg 22 (nmol/L) ,
Androstenedione 2 (nmol/L),
FT4 15.3 pmol/L,
cortisol (nmol/L) 371,
LH 3.3, FSH 7.3,
Growth Hormone 0.2
I have tried to holistically deal with these problems and was trying tongkat ali, ashwagandha, tribulus, maca. I had a treatment timetable for the year, with more and more extreme solutions to be employed downstream. I was trying to avoid stress, but I still had extreme anxiety which I couldn’t reason with.
LH 2.5 ,
PROLACTIN 160 (mU/L)
My TSH had got worse, so I was going to try and do a long water fast whilst researching the thyroid and maybe try supplementing with iodine/selenium/tyrosine but didn’t get round to it as I was bogged down with work, I added in Tianepentine which was the first thing to make my anxiety manageable.
Suddenly I crashed further than I normally do, my eyes really flared up , they are quite bad as I have to treat them every day with an eye bag, and they are due to low androgens/specific to propecia as androgens control eyes. I do believe if i raised T it would go away or use t cream on lids. Then I had testicular pain which has been ongoing for the last week, I even went to A&E, but was sent away. I realised I was crashing further than normal as all my symptoms were worse, so I went to GP and asked for testosterone and TSH so I could prove to them my levels are not normal. I think the tongkat ali etc, was slowly making my thyroid worse.
15/11/2017 TSH 5.33,
fT4 18.8 (pmol/L),
They still sent me away, and said I am normal and none of my symptoms would be related although,now they say I have hypothyroidism but won’t do anything.
TL;DR: Finasteride 3 years ago for three months, have low T issues and permanent health effects from not dealing with it for so long.
I know my thyroid should be looked at, but I am so weak now.
I went to see somebody in the UK who said I could start clomid or sustanon with hCG, I am thinking the TRT route as I am really in a slump and haven’t had normal T for so long, and I have lots of eye issues due to hormones, (I believe people suffer side effects from clomid due to the roles hormones play in the eye, I got many floaters after allowing my stress to run havoc every day in the last year on a bad endocrine system.)
People don’t seem to do well on clomid or actually keep their gains, and it comes with more side effects. I did want to really look into thyroid, as if I’m correct that is easier to treat, worse comes to the worst I use NDT? I also wanted to try a 10 day water fast—obviously this could be complete hokey science, but doesnt seem that risky and might clean some of my health.
Now I’m too weak to do a week of research, so I am thinking of going on HRT, seeing if symptoms reverse, then sorting out thyroid when I have time, then maybe transferring over to HTPA restart.
Any thoughts would be really appreciated, as can’t really think atm. thanks