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2081 Movie Trailer

This one looks like it has the potential to be one of my favorites:

While you’re waiting, read the short story:

http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html

mike

Great story by one of America’s best writers. The trailer isn’t loading for me. I need to try again.

[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
This one looks like it has the potential to be one of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi6TTNKdgSk

While you’re waiting, read the short story:

http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/hb.html

mike[/quote]

Was that the girl from Airplane?

Looks very good.Hope they do the story justice.

Good thing it isn’t really possible to get to those extremes.

Vonnegut never did it for me.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Good thing it isn’t really possible to get to those extremes.

Vonnegut never did it for me.[/quote]

No, reality could be much worse. I have already heard of parents complaining that gifted students are intentionally held back because it will make the other students feel bad.

It used to mean something to win a trophy, yet now they give them out for just showing up, and try to restructure games so that there is no winner or loser.

It is going on right now, under our noses, and we are too blinded by the idea that what is being done is good, or “politically correct”.

Yes this is an artistic representation, and while those weights are not physically real, they do exist.

It should be pointed out that the book 1984 was originally titled 1948. But the publisher would not allow that title.

[quote]The Mage wrote:

It used to mean something to win a trophy, yet now they give them out for just showing up, and try to restructure games so that there is no winner or loser.
[/quote]

cough soccer cough

mike

“When the exceptional is outlawed, only outlaws will be exceptional.”

Kinda sounds like now.

[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
The Mage wrote:

It used to mean something to win a trophy, yet now they give them out for just showing up, and try to restructure games so that there is no winner or loser.

cough soccer cough

mike[/quote]

You made me laugh my ass off!
Sports like Basketball, where you win 83-82, are FAR, far more 2081 then soccer (which I’m not a fan of, btw).
Soccer is a un2081 as a team sport can be. It’s is highly subjective at times, with lots of in built foul opportunities and unfair drama.
That’s the reason holigans are rampant here in Europe while in comparison, for example, an american Baseball match is like going to a pasture. Fat, dozing, docile cows everywhere.

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
The Mage wrote:

It used to mean something to win a trophy, yet now they give them out for just showing up, and try to restructure games so that there is no winner or loser.

cough soccer cough

mike

You made me laugh my ass off!
Sports like Basketball, where you win 83-82, are FAR, far more 2081 then soccer (which I’m not a fan of, btw).

Soccer is a un2081 as a team sport can be. It’s is highly subjective at times, with lots of in built foul opportunities and unfair drama.
That’s the reason holigans are rampant here in Europe while in comparison, for example, an american Baseball match is like going to a pasture. Fat, dozing, docile cows everywhere.
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I don’t know about soccer overseas, but here games end in a 1-1 tie and everyone is happy as mom gives out drink boxes before they get their participation trophies at the end of the season. I don’t think I’m going to let my kids get participation trophies when they play a sport.

mike

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:

That’s the reason holigans are rampant here in Europe while in comparison, for example, an american Baseball match is like going to a pasture. Fat, dozing, docile cows everywhere.
[/quote]

Hey Schwarz. Your “pasture” comment reminded me of a classic George Carlin routine.

Baseball vs. Football

I enjoy comparing baseball and football:

Baseball is a nineteenth-century pastoral game.
Football is a twentieth-century technological struggle.

Baseball is played on a diamond, in a park. The baseball park!
Football is played on a gridiron, in a stadium, sometimes called Soldier Field or War Memorial Stadium.

Baseball begins in the spring, the season of new life.
Football begins in the fall, when everything’s dying.

In football you wear a helmet.
In baseball you wear a cap.

Football is concerned with downs - what down is it? Baseball is concerned with ups - who’s up?

In football you receive a penalty.
In baseball you make an error.

In football the specialist comes in to kick.
In baseball the specialist comes in to relieve somebody.

Football has hitting, clipping, spearing, piling on, personal fouls, late hitting and unnecessary roughness.
Baseball has the sacrifice.

Football is played in any kind of weather: rain, snow, sleet, hail, fog…
In baseball, if it rains, we don’t go out to play.

Baseball has the seventh inning stretch.
Football has the two minute warning.

Baseball has no time limit: we don’t know when it’s gonna end - might have extra innings.
Football is rigidly timed, and it will end even if we’ve got to go to sudden death.

In baseball, during the game, in the stands, there’s kind of a picnic feeling; emotions may run high or low, but there’s not too much unpleasantness.

In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you’re capable of taking the life of a fellow human being.

And finally, the objectives of the two games are completely different:

In football the object is for the quarterback, also known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his receivers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use shotgun.

With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy’s defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe!

Hm, perhpas it’s a cultural thing.
A pal of mine told me about once a soccer match where they went against a turkish team (it’s not something about international teams, in Germany, you can be a member of an exclusive ethnic heritage team).

We were discussing the subject of “participation”. Apparently the opponents had a different concept, since the game was rather about survival.

He got an ellbow square in the face when the ref, who was himself injured later on, wasn’t looking. Soccer/Football is often about cheating, humiliating the opponent, making it without major injuries.

Remember the chest butt? His opponent pretended he was hit in the face, lying so that zidane would get heavily penalized, which happened.
No Football here is a mean, un PC farce of a game.

Interesting list.
I’ve yet to see a live football match, Varq.

I’ve nothing against the gracefulness of sport-brutality when it’s apparent for everyone.

Do they yell profanities at everyone (referee, opposing team, opposing fans) like in our stadiums?
This is another big turn off for me.

Back on topic: who is making this movie / when is it due? I cannot find it on imdb or anywhere.

Ahh - apparently the site is http://www.finallyequal.com/

No word on a release date though :frowning:

This looks way better than the last Harrison Bergeron movie.

Its a good short story, but I cant imagine it would be a good movie if it was any longer than 30 mins. Unless they give all this shitty back story and stuff. I have just been disappointed in film adaptations

Its a good short story, but I cant imagine it would be a good movie if it was any longer than 30 mins. Unless they give all this shitty back story and stuff. I have just been disappointed in film adaptations

[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
The Mage wrote:

It used to mean something to win a trophy, yet now they give them out for just showing up, and try to restructure games so that there is no winner or loser.

cough soccer cough

mike

You made me laugh my ass off!
Sports like Basketball, where you win 83-82, are FAR, far more 2081 then soccer (which I’m not a fan of, btw).

Soccer is a un2081 as a team sport can be. It’s is highly subjective at times, with lots of in built foul opportunities and unfair drama.
That’s the reason holigans are rampant here in Europe while in comparison, for example, an american Baseball match is like going to a pasture. Fat, dozing, docile cows everywhere.

I don’t know about soccer overseas, but here games end in a 1-1 tie and everyone is happy as mom gives out drink boxes before they get their participation trophies at the end of the season. I don’t think I’m going to let my kids get participation trophies when they play a sport.

mike[/quote]

I have been coaching soccer the last couple years. We don’t keep score, have winners or losers or any type of official championships.

The kids keep score themselves and know who won and lost. It is not hopeless.

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Interesting list.
I’ve yet to see a live football match, Varq.

I’ve nothing against the gracefulness of sport-brutality when it’s apparent for everyone.

Do they yell profanities at everyone (referee, opposing team, opposing fans) like in our stadiums?
This is another big turn off for me.[/quote]

In Philly they threw snowballs at Santa.