2017 Log of Fun - Redemption

It takes something like 1-2 weeks to receive the benefits of test, definitely won’t be felt the same day as a first injection.

@dchris

Are you sure about that?

Endo prescribed 25 mg/week a few years ago and said I should feel a “boost” from the injection.

I kinda felt something different for the first 6 hours, like I was calmer. Could be a placebo effect, it wasnt that evident.

Either way I’ll be done with this bullshit in maximum 4 weeks, don’t feel like having my sack pulled up and oily skin.

Going to inject another 50 mg which will put me at 85 mg since saturday

Think I am going to log all that and how I feel. Could be interesting for some lurker in a similar situation than me (lowish T but no problem with the gym). It would have been for me. Also gives me something to type on my ipad when im sitting at the toilet.

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zFelt like I was going to have some sort of low key fever earlier today, but it’s getting better. Probably linked to the hormonal aspect of immunity and stuff

Trained legs and missed all my lifts because I was dizzy and shaky, if I don’t come back to my top sets next week and only to the one before and it stays that way, it’s going to negate any enhanced gain I could have. Going back durably to the second to last set already happened a lot of times before

Now I have a little theory, take it with a grain of salt. Could be all in my head, but there is probably some reality to it.

Men, including me, can pick off when someone is on gear because it gives them a “disagreeable” aura. Women have mixed reactions to it. Now at the gym I think some regulars picked it up a little, some of them looked a little puzzled and maybe a bit hostile. Some trashy women seemed to have a new found interest for me, but the less trashy ones didnt, regardless of attractiveness. Trashy women are the kind of women that end up with the ugliest pig faced monkeys.

This log looks like fun.

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Go calculate when you will actually reach high normal levels of testosterone based on the half life of the enanthate ester. If you are using 70mg/week, I estimate it will take 4 weeks. Unless you have no balls, whatever you are experiencing is probably the placebo effect.

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I dont know much about steroids, but this part is ambiguous.

Their androgen levels would be higher right away and decline in 4-5 week in the article.

If I calculate, the decomposition of test. enanthante to bio. test. is proportional to concentration, giving an exponential of decrease with a 7 day half-life.

If I add my natural production to the fraction that has been decomposed to bio. test in one day since I am not shutdown yet, neglecting the decomposition of bio. test, I would be 50 mg * (1-exp( -(1/7)*ln(2)) = 50 mg * 0.10= 5 mg higher.

If 100 mg a week = 30 nmol/L total test, I am naturally equivalent to 35 mg a week so roughly 5 mg a day.

So I would have 2 time my normal production for the first day, which could maybe be enough to make my body produce more of the stuff associated with test in the air which would make a difference.

This effect could have some sort of peak when you first inject test. in the case where your body hasnt seen any yet, like the euphoria some TRT users initially have (that I dont have). If anything it was better saturday when I injected 35mg.

whew

That is based off 1 dose. Plus, they have no balls. Natural test = 0(or something to that effect).

^This is how it works.

Chart is based on:

100mg Test E
50mg every 3.5 days
Half Life: 4.5 days

I dunno. I have read studies showing LH almost undetectable after 2 days of administration of exogenous test at TRT levels. That would imply complete shutdown. However, it takes about 8 weeks for the balls to completely stop producing sperm even on 1g in my experience. Regardless, I doubt any exogenous test will add to your own production. It’s supposed to replace it.

That is based on levels near the peak(since testing is usually done 3-4 days after administration) at 4-6 weeks. See the chart. I can’t link the site here. You can google “steroid calculator” and use one of them.

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Also, testosterone does not give you a sudden boost in strength and lbm. It gives you the potential to build more lbm(though there will be a gradual build up of some “lbm” in the form of intra muscular fluid) and at a faster rate, which increases strength. If you wanted the former, you should have gone and scored some dbol lol. 5-10lbs of “lbm” through a rapid increase in intra muscular fluid within 10 days.

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Yeah, I have no hope that 50 mg a week will add to my own production. I think 25 mg once a week could, as in my natural test will resume shortly after, but from what I see it’s controversial.

In my case I think that because I already had testosterone floating around before any injection, it added to what already was there. After the injection no more is produced, but at that point I really had twice as in 5 mg natural + 5 added.

50mg is pretty low. Will need to see bloodwork after a month though.

Are you primary or secondary hypo?

Would be secondary, but it’s getting clearer every day that I am not hypogonadal. I have been wondering for a long time. I am in the bottom of the range but in range most of the times.

I’ll be giving it a try for 1-2 month anyway with 100-200mg just to be sure it doesnt make any difference for anything.

I won’t do 50 mg as prescribed because if I did this, I wouldn’t be sure at the end if TRT helped or not with energy. 50 mg only puts you at the middle of the range which is fine for most, and I already tested once in the middle.

50 mg is the guideline for all doctors written by the medical commitee which would have been surely composed at least in part with a certain type of female. In a socialized healthcare system it is an obligation to follow it, since the state is paying for a lot of things for the population (not testosterone but that doesnt change anything). You will lose your job if you don’t, guaranteed.

I will see if it makes a difference in 1-2 months when there is enough time for the slow processes in the body to adapt. Maybe a bit more if that is what the endo says it takes in a week or two.

I really dont care about the additionnal muscle gains. I am already muscular enough, I have made good natural sustained gains over years and I still am. I like to train.

The way I would explain the low T to myself is that in my case my body works in a way that when you look at one link of the network it gives out an inaccurate picture of the whole thing. Every animal is different, testosterone is just one kind of molecule out of I don’t how much, organized in different ways for everyone. I still have an impression I could function a lot better, but testosterone hasnt changed anything yet.

Anyway I am just on day 5, more is yet to come. I am not feeling anything yet, the only thing different is my balls went from coconuts in a loose hammock to what you would see in a buff male porn actor (not that bad yet actually)

Ah ok. I guessed so. After all this, you may want to give SERM therapy a try instead of injecting test if you are looking for the benefits of being in the mid to higher range without all the hassle.

Ha!

Tried this in 2013 for a few days with anastrozole for what it is worth. Only thing I ever did outside of now, along with 1 pill of proviron in 2014 maybe. Took it gradually to decrease my estrogen all over a range to see how I would feel. Made me feel worse and gave me joint pain.

I don’t think it’s that bad once you figure how to do it. I just inject in my belly, takes 5 min.

I am probably lower now than when I injected, but the funny thing is I think that when an attraction is made, people will have registered it in their brain and will still be interested for a short while.

Unfortunately I am not interested in lanky women dressed in “swag” clothes with big banana fake tits with tattoos all over them.

Those are symptoms of low estrogen, which really suck. A SERM does not decrease estrogen. It blocks estrogen from selected receptors.

“Because of its mechanism of action, tamoxifen results in the inhibition of the negative feedback of estrogen at the hypothalamus and pituitary gland, and results in the release of LH and FSH, which in turn increases testosterone biosynthesis and “stimulates” spermatogenesis.”

But I am. Too bad I’m married.

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65 mg or so today

Can’t wait to be done with that garbage to be honest. Still makes no difference.

Anyway, did 180lbs x 1 neutral chin, kind of explosive which is good

This was 4 days after the last 50 mg, doesn’t make a difference anyway.

Also did DB row 270x3 top set. The set with the second arm was kinda sloppy. I should start to use to right arm first, which was the strongest ages ago, reason why I did it after the left one for years.

That stuff is fun to do but the log is boring to write.

Once again I feel like I am gonna get the flu after the injection