Bloods are 4 weeks into SERM. Please read bottom half of post.
About me: I’ve been lifting for about 12 years im 28 I’ve always been a big guy with a lower “body fat” roughy 16% (I know it’s not super low but I’m 300lbs so I consider it to be low.) I’ve done 2 cycles here and there didn’t start till I was 26. Never had any issue with estro or anything like that. At least nothing that made me get gyno or any side effects in that case. I’m very knowledgeable when it comes to dieting, lifting, and supplements. However I’ve done a fair amount of research on anabolics but not nearly enough as some people on this forum as to why I’m posting about my experience and am willing to take any criticism or help that I can get. Cause at the end of the day I understand that why I’m about to reveal wasn’t the wisest choice.
I was on a cycle of test c for about 24 weeks contrary to what the title states the extra 4 weeks was test “taper” with hcg. I never really ran a cycle longer than 12 weeks but I had some complications in getting bunk pct twice so I had to extend it. My cycle looked like this.
Week 1- 20 500mg of test c E3D
Blood work done every two weeks to asses how much aromasin was needed so it varied. Most of the time was 6.25mg E4D some times 12.5mg.
Note: during this “taper” phase aromasin was bumped up to 12.5mg to 25mg depending on bloods and days i took it varied.
Week 20 test c 250mg a week hcg 500iu 3x week
Week 21 test c 150Mg week hcg 250iu 3x week
Week 22 test c 100mg week hcg 250iu 3x week
Week 23 test c 100mg week hcg 250iu 3x week
Week 24 test c 100mg week hcg 250iu 3x week
Week 25 hcg 250iu 3 x week
Week 26 hcg 250iu 2x week
Since I was still technically suppressed by hcg I thought about waiting before starting clomid. (I used clomid over tamoxifen because I had a script for it, and I used hcg because I had a script for that to would have preferred tamoxifen but beggars can’t be choosers). I wasn’t sure tho, there is so much conflicting information on pct with hcg having it be used during or several weeks prior to SERM. So I bit the bullet and started my clomid.
Week 1-2 50mg of clomid
(had to lower dose week 3 becusse I was getting this weird red eye strain if that makes sense)
Week 3-4 25mg
Posted bloods after 4 weeks of SERM at the top
Bloods are just shbg total test and free test. Now I need to order one for lh fsh prolactin etc. Which I already have so I’ll keep it updated.
Week 5-6 25mg
Now here is where things get interesting went to a Trt doctor for just more information. He says based off bloods run clomid for another 3 months at 50mg a week. I was like huh interesting protocol. Closest thing I could find to that was a pub med study on men with secondary low t taking 25 mg 3 times a week. I thought well I’ll give it a try.
Week 7-8 50mg a week
And that’s as far as I am in this pct.
Now my concern is not my test as it’s expected to be low after 24 weeks of being on anabolics it’s my balls… they aren’t as big as they were and I don’t have much problem my libido in fact i did it the other day like 3 times in one in one sesh. (Sorry if that’s tmi). Anyways they aren’t like raisins just not the same size as they use to be. Now I’ve read probably about every long term cycle pct on this site before posting my own experience. And I’m not a poster just a reader/ lurking trying to soak up as much info as possible. So I apologize if my post is out of place or unorganized. I’m typing this at 5 am because my sleep schedule has been screwy since this whole quarantine thing.
Supplements I currently take:
Zinc/mag/ vitamin c combo
And I just started a t booster ( now as far as I know I don’t think this can hurt however I may be wrong based off all the research I’ve done I couldn’t find anything that would suggest it would cause any issues) brand is
Diet is ehhhhh I mean it’s hard cause of the whole quarantine right now. So I’m doing my best to keep my protein high and my macros balanced.
Sleep is could be better I know that would probably help a lot.
Stress? Hey how can I not be haha
Workout routine is a 5 day block. Chest back shoulder etc.
I don’t think I’m doing anything wrong unless I’m totally oblivious or I’m just over thinking it and should be happy with the numbers I have at 4 months.
Anyways love this site has always been my go to.
Hope you guys can lend a helping hand! And hope to help others that might have been in a similar situation as mine.
(Note: taper is in quotes because was not a proper taper)