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1st Cycle at 30


#1

So I have been researching this for awhile and just started my 1st cycle I am 30yrs old 5'8 I jst cut natty from 198lbs 24% bf to 163 11.5% bf I did high cardio low carb well I lost a lil more muscle then I wanted so now I'm lifting heavy 500 cal over maint I train 6 days a week my 1st cycle is as follows
Week 1-4 50mg dbol Ed
Week 1-12. 500mg. Test cyp pinned 2x week
Week 1-13. .5 mg armidex Ed
Week 13-14. Nothing
Week 15. 50 mg clomid Ed
Week 16. 25 mg clomid Ed
Week 17. 12.5 mg every day
Week 18. 12.5 mg. every day
Please any feed back would be great.
B4 pics coming soon


#2

[quote]Jboi1128 wrote:
So I have been researching this for awhile and just started my 1st cycle I am 30yrs old 5’8 I jst cut natty from 198lbs 24% bf to 163 11.5% bf I did high cardio low carb well I lost a lil more muscle then I wanted so now I’m lifting heavy 500 cal over maint I train 6 days a week my 1st cycle is as follows
Week 1-4 50mg dbol Ed
Week 1-12. 500mg. Test cyp pinned 2x week
Week 1-13. .5 mg armidex Ed
Week 13-14. Nothing
Week 15. 50 mg clomid Ed
Week 16. 25 mg clomid Ed
Week 17. 12.5 mg every day
Week 18. 12.5 mg. every day
Please any feed back would be great.
B4 pics coming soon[/quote]

what is your rationale for tapering the clomid down so much?


#3

Just what I saw in research would you suggest something diff?


#4

[quote]Jboi1128 wrote:
Just what I saw in research would you suggest something diff?[/quote]

yeah, there’s no point.

clomid is effective in doses at 25-50 mg/day, and also has a half-life of about a week. tapering like that really has no positive effect, and simply gives you a sub-optimal dose…

clomid also makes a lot of guys really emotional, and isn’t quite as effective as tamoxifen, either. you might wanna do some more reading and re-think it…


#5

Great thanks man I got 11 weeks I will deff look a lil deeper into it thanx