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10 Week Dbol/Test E (FIRST CYCLE)


#1

Posted a few months ago, but made some changes. Was going to give my overview and see if I can get any responses.

Weeks 1-4 DBOL 25mg once I wakeup/25mg 8 hours later. (usually workout an hour after wakeup)
Weeks 1-10 Test E @ 500mg (1 shot per week)
Weeks 1-10 Adex @ .25 EOD
Weeks 8-12 HCG (2x 500uis) (500uis Monday / 500uis Thurs)


PCT
Weeks 1-4 Clomid ED (100/100/50/50)
Weeks 1-4 Tamox ED (40/40/20/20)
Weeks 1-4 3g DAA ED


Training
Dorian Yates HIT
*Day1: Chest & Biceps
*Day2: Back
*Day3: Rest
*Day4: Delts & Triceps
*Day 5: Legs/Abs


Nutrition
Starting Weight- 180 Lbs
Macros- 5 meals @ 66g carbs/45g protein/16g fat/7g fiber/600 cals (each meal)
*Meals include Chicken/Fish/Whole Wheat Penne pasta/Olive oil/Fruits
*Gallon of water ED


Supplements
*Phase8 Morning Shake
*HydroBuilder + Cytocarb postworkout
*Gold Standard Casien before bed
*Optimen multi/Fish Oil/Liv52/BCAAs ED (take liv52 during 4 weeks of dbol? thoughts?)


Notes
*Drinking Grapefruit Juice with my dbol(not researched based, just seems to be common)
*Getting solid 8 Hours of sleep ED
*Staying active on off Days (Swimming/Basketball/Football)
*Use of supplements = helping meet my macros, not replacing solid nutrition plan.
*Tanning twice a week
*Weight in 1st of every month
*Setting short term & long term goals.


#2

Looks good for the most part.

-Break up the test injections at least 2x a week. If you don't like pinning look into slin pins.

-adex looks good, you may need more or less. Dbol tends to make my nips puffy at .25mg. I would also run the adex up till pct and run a low dose throughout pct as well. Aromasin is better during pct. also taper off the serms as well after the 4 weeks.

  • if you didn't know pct starts 2 weeks after last pin of test.

  • hcg should be started no later than week 3. Dosed at 250iu 3x a week, stopping 4-5 days before pct.


#3

Thanks for all the info. will apply it :). also have a few letro tabs on hand. If nips get puffy do I up te dose of Adex? or go with something stronger but at a small dose, letro


#4

If your nips do get puffy, tender, itchy, then yes you need to increase your adex dose. I would personally use Nolva if my nips were puffy but letro would work to fix the problem then go back to the adex at a higher dose.


#5

Thanks for everything. done a lot of research on this stuff, just trying to put everything together before starting my cycle


#6

If anyone else can have a look at my plan please give feedback. Thanks again


#7

looks perfect to me ! well done.. i would like to know hw much you put on and keep at the end.. + the dbol, how it turns out to be..


#8

Thanks! I will probably make a separate post about my progress with pictures. I'll be sure to include it on this thread.


#9

BUMP. any other suggestions?


#10

there is actually research on dbol + grapefruit juice. it's proven to make it more effective.

I would reduce your extracurricular activities.. as it were.. the greater your caloric expenditure, the more difficulty ull have putting on mass


#11

okay will definitely cut down on it. And would one glass in the morning, along with the dbol, be effective?


#12

That looks like a fun cycle to make some good gains on. Let me know how that workout goes. I have never done it that way, only hitting each muscle group once a week.

Hey if Yates did it it must work, just wonder if that is a "maintain" workout for someone already at that size(MR Olympia) or for people trying to get to that size also.

Keep us posted


#13

Thanks for the feedback rupe. Will definitely keep posted and when I start ill make a new thread