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1 Month In, Need Help Honing My Meds


#1

Hey All,

Here is the data you guys are looking for:

Script-

  1. Pharma compound 210mg a week
  2. 1000IU hCG a week
  3. AI 0.5mg a week

Here is what i actually take.

  1. 25ish mg E3.5D IM
  2. 250IU hCG E3.5D
  3. no AI

Labs:

Pre-

  1. Total T - avg 300 (348-1197)
  2. Free T - avg 8 (9.3-26.5)
  3. LH - avg 4.4
  4. FSH - avg 4.9
  5. E2 - avg 30 (7.6-42.6)

1 month into TRT-

  1. Total T - 813 (348-1197)
  2. Free T - 25.4 (9.3-26.5)
  3. LH - <0.2
  4. FSH - <0.2
  5. E2 - 51 (7.6-42.6)

i take a multi (kinda infrequently) with 150mcg of iodine and occasionally use pink salt.

Stats:
28M, asian, 6’1", 215lbs, 1000lbs club natty.

Symptoms:

  1. still sluggish af
  2. foggy af
  3. great morning and night wood
  4. random bouts of inability to sleep - not insomnia, but last night for example, i slept until 2 hours from when i am supposed to wake up and my heart is racing.
  5. kinda sweaty, but i find this to be the norm as i swear normally VERY easily.
  6. i find i can do more volume, but im not finding strength
  7. again, sluggish and fog cuz it others me. general overall fatigue is a killer. its mildly depressing.

Questions/concerns:

  1. E2 looks high, nearly double. no obvious signs of gyno, but i notice i am more irritable and such (less patience, kinda rage)
  2. i had a MRI with pituitary focus - result: “Slightly heterogeneously enhancing pituitary gland without convincing evidence of an adenoma.”
  3. TSH and LH numbers PLUMMETED. wtf?
  4. is there an ideal ratio of test C to hCG?
  5. is my hCG intake too high?
  6. reddit seems to believe that i should treat based on symptoms and not looking for “22”. do my symptoms justify going for the elusive “22”
  7. lastly, should i up my test dose? im using 1/4 of my weekly dose so i have extra across the board. if so, when do i take AI and/or add hCG?

Thanks all!


#2

Only 50mg of test per week? I haven’t heard of a dose that low before, supriaed your test is at that level, when did you have your bloodwork done in relation to your last injection?


#3

1 month out from first pin.

i think its high cuz hCG is high right?

current LH/FSH numbers are low, doc called me and told me my production is zilch now? even with that dosage of hCG?


#4

Please maintain your original thread here: 28Y/O Male. Approved TRT from Doctor

Do not split your case, need the whole picture in one spot.

LH/FSH–>zero on TRT, expected. You have not read the stickies carefully that I posted into your original thread.

TSH is not FSH.

Ratio of T:hCG is a meaningless question.

How much hCG? 250iu SC EOD