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1.5 Year Update Switch to Every Day Injections and Deca

36 years old. Primary. 1.5 years on TRT Lab work below on protocol 150 mg cyp/week, 300 IU HCG/week. Cialis. Injection every other day.

Side effects were emotional instability, erection issues. Doctor had me split dose to every day, 5 mg Cialis every day. Gave blood. Felt better. One of his suggestions was replacing some of the cypionate with deca to bring estrogen down. I’ve read Cialis does this as well. But I do jiujitsu and am 36 and am interested in the joint pain relief of nandrolone. His new suggestion was 120 mg cypionate and 100mg deca, injections every day, alternating cyp/deca.

Thoughts on this? I’d like to put on some weight and make these creaky joints mo’ better. Been reading about things to look out for with deca, like lipids and mood.

CBC With Differential/Platelet
WBC 5.5 x10E3/uL 3.4-10.8 01
RBC 5.57 x10E6/uL 4.14-5.80 01
Hemoglobin 17.0 g/dL 13.0-17.7 01
Hematocrit 49.0 % 37.5-51.0 01
MCV 88 fL 79-97 01
MCH 30.5 pg 26.6-33.0 01
MCHC 34.7 g/dL 31.5-35.7 01
RDW 13.0 % 11.6-15.4 01
Platelets 245 x10E3/uL 150-450 01

Lipid Panel w/ Chol/HDL Ratio
Cholesterol, Total 174 mg/dL 100-199 01
Triglycerides 88 mg/dL 0-149 01
HDL Cholesterol 46 mg/dL >39 01
VLDL Cholesterol Cal 16 mg/dL 5-40
LDL Chol Calc (NIH) 112 High mg/dL 0-99

Estradiol, Sensitive 32.0 pg/mL 8.0-35.0
Sex Horm Binding Glob, Serum 23.9 nmol/L 16.5-55.9

Nandrolone is a PED in this instance. Period. If you want to run legal steroids that’s ok … but it’s not HRT. Just do a simple search of Nandrolone or Deca and ED. You could read for years. I’m not getting into it again.

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Why take this if you’re primary?

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Thanks for your input. Sounds like you’ve had some frustrating conversations or experiences with this.

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My understanding is that primary rarely means complete failure.

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Stop using HCG and bump up to 200mg. What is your SHBG? Im at 220mg/wk and joints are great again! I cycle HCG for about 12wks and off for another. When I cycle HCG it bumps up my T and E so things feel even better, but when I cycle off, I feel as good.

SHBG is 23.

Thats how I do HCG too, two on two off though.

I like the simpler approach.

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Bump up you T and E will rise too. Should help your joints and ground game.