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1,000 lb. Deadlifts

Recently, the 1,000 pound bench press mark was broken and there have been a number of 1,000 pound plus squats. I’m wondering what people think about the 1,000 lb deadlift barrier–when do you think it will be broken and by whom?
I think it’s possible that the person to break it will be a deadlift specialist who might have a good but not world-class squat and bench. Probably someone built more like an NFL defensive end (6-4 to 6-6, 300-315) than a superheavyweight powerlifter.

Currently the two top deadlifters are Garry Frank and Andy Bolton. They both have lifted over 930lbs in competition. I would think that either of these two would be the most likely to break 1000lb.

It is also quite possible that either of these two have done just that with straps in training. Though it only counts on the platform.

It would be interesting to see a competition for deadlifting with straps. I think you’re right, both of those guys could probably do it. Maybe the competition could be held at the Arnold.

My money is on Tibor Meszaros!

Paul Anderson did 1000 with hooks in the 50s along with supposedly a 1206 squat, he swore that he got 1100 more than deep enough and a 627 bench (with minimal training) all raw. If he had had a suit and shirt and was taught how to bench and a conservative estimate would be 1300 squat, 800 bench and 900 dead with some grip work, that’s 3000 right there. Who knows maybe 1450 squat (assuming he got 1206 and got a good but not uncommon boost from a specially taylored suit) a 950 bench considering his 627 is still close to todays raw world record and that he only focused on the bench for 5 months, and 900 dead, that’s 3300!

On what mertdawg wrote:

What did he weigh? Something like 400lbs?

[quote]ZEB wrote:
On what mertdawg wrote:

What did he weigh? Something like 400lbs?[/quote]

Usually listed as 5-9 390 which is even more impressive because he had to move that weight in the squat and dead as well.

If you go to the American Strength Legends site you can check out more of Anderson’s official and unofficial lifts. 900x10 in the squat!

The Arnolds’ strongman competition has a deadlift with straps component already. Last year Mark Phillipi (spelling?) pulled over 900lbs to win the event.

1000lb is still out there.

On a sidenote; as impressive as a 1000lb deadlift would be, putting all three lifts together with 1000lb + weights would absolutely be stunning.

800 in each of the three lifts would be awesome. Kazmaier would have benched 800 with todays shirts (and squatted 1000 easy, plus 900 dead with improved deadlift equiptment. I think he may have gotten 900 once). Anthony Clark Officially benched and deadlifted right at 800 and squatted 1053 I think. Anderson probably would have gotten 800 bench if there were a shirt that would fit him, + 1100+ raw squat and 800 dead with no straps. Frank has been over 900 dead and 950 squat and I assume has put up an 800 bench. The interesting thing for me is that Kazmaier and Anderson’s probable all around numbers would still destroy anyone today.

i am surprised that deadlift records are not the highest among the three.
for me, i can deadlift 100lbs more than I can bench.

deadlifting is a piece of cake compared to benching for me.

why is the deadlift the lowest of three?
it uses the biggest muscles, am i not right?
maybe it has something to do with grip?

Two reasons:

  1. Equipment like bench shirts and squat suits doesn’t help the dead nearly as much and

  2. Added weight for Superheavys helps the squat and bench and hurts the dead.

Reason three:

Your deadlifting at the end of a meet. That means, assuming all goes well, that you’ve made 6 huge lifts already. Your heaviest attempt at anylift is usually the third, so you are looking at the ninth lift of the day (not counting all the warmups).

To hit huge numbers on that last dead takes an incredible amount of energy.

Also, Garry Frank has squatted over 1000lb, benched over 800lb and deadlifted over 900lb in a single meet, breaking Kaz’s record. Can’t speculate on Kaz’s totals with todays equipment because he’s not competing.

I honestly think Kaz is the best in the history of the game. And there is no nicer guy who ever lifted a weight! (just my opinion)

[quote]flabtoslab wrote:
Reason three:
Also, Garry Frank has squatted over 1000lb, benched over 800lb and deadlifted over 900lb in a single meet, breaking Kaz’s record. Can’t speculate on Kaz’s totals with todays equipment because he’s not competing.
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Well, I did see a clip of Kaz squat 950 raw and he used a pretty close stance and basically just “sat down-almost rock bottom” for two seconds and then shot back up.

Who knows. Maybe Kaz and Anderson where two guys who just wouldn’t get that much out of the equiptment.

Two more reasons why deads haven’t gone up.

  1. People built to deadlift are discouraged from getting into powerlifting. They tend to have better builds for other sports (longer arms and legs) and supers built to squat and bench you get 400-500 pounds out of their equiptment in these two lifts. Great deadlifters can’t compete unless your Garry Frank and good all around.

  2. You get more bang for your training bucks training the bench and squat. Improving your squat will tend to carry overy and at least maintain your deadlift, but if you deadlift and don’t squat for a year, your squat will plummet.

What if this guy had access to modern equipment, a shirt etc…

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It is strange that the deadlift is the lowest off the three because as far as qualifers it has the highest standard.

I want to compete in a novice division (drug free, raw)locally. For the 198-220 class you need to have a 370 bench, 485 squat, and 540 deadlift.

In the weight class below (181-197) they only drop the weight 10 pounds for the the deadlift qualifier. At the lower competitive levels people expect the deadlift to be the strongest lift.

I reckon an element of it is the stretch reflex in the squat and bench. That combined with the suits that make the most difficult portion of those lifts (ie the bottom) that little bit easier. The deadlift doesn’t have those advantages.

In the deadlift, even pulling yourself down doesn’t get much reflex - it’s really a dead start (hence dead-lift!).

I think it’s ridiculous that anybody can bench more than they can deadlift. And to have that reflected in the best lifters in the sport is very strange.

It may also say something about how equipment has warped the totals… It makes people squat and bench more than their actual “strength”. But there is no fooling on the deadlift.

Look, the raw world records at almost every weight class are almost dead even for the squat and dead, probably favoring the dead below 275 pounds. Max equiptment gives a top lifter 200 pounds on the squat, and at MOST 50 on the dead. (As well as 150 on the bench)